Fire Emblem: The Four Kings demo (chapters 1-5, FE8 romhack)

#1

Hello! I’m KrashBoomBang, and I’ve been working on my own FE8 romhack called The Four Kings. Just today I finished up the first 5 chapters of the hack, including all the portraits and dialogue and stuff. You can download the demo and try it yourself at this link right here!

So, what’s the deal with this hack? The overall gimmick I have with it is that I want every single unit to have a personal weapon. And I mean everyone! I also really wanna nail map design, so hopefully I deliver on that front.

If you’d like to keep tabs on the project, or give me some feedback, feel free to drop by my discord server right here.

IMPORTANT: THIS HACK IS DESIGNED TO BE PLAYED ON HARD MODE, SO PLEASE DO NOT SELECT EASY OR NORMAL.

Also, here’s some images! Hope you enjoy what I’ve done so far!

11 Likes
#2

You really want to show off the prfs huh.

#3

Well of course, silly! They’re the point of the hack :stuck_out_tongue:

#4

Congrats on the release! Will be playing this asap.

#5

If you want to change the “-” for Prf, change the text ID 0x52C

#6

Thanks for the tip!

#7

Congrats on the release, Krash! Looking forward to seeing how you build this.

#8

So uh, I barely even got into the first chapter, but I have two thoughts.

  • The infodump at the beginning is WAY too long. I can’t even remember any of the characters, weapons, or places mentioned besides the fact that some guys’ wife died. I would introduce this information a lot slower and more naturally. Though, I did like how you introduced the map by having the lord draw it.
  • The first chapter has the first enemy be an archer. All of your units are melee range, and start far away from the archer. There’s a problem here. So, playing the chapter, I decided to go left through the woods instead of straight so I could sidestep a bit of the action. Well, Shaun and Bradley spawn up ahead. And if you don’t immediately recruit them, they will die. Bradley will get ganged up on by four units. And I don’t know if there’s a story reason, but Bradley dying causes a game over. The game punishes you with a game over for going left instead of going ahead. That’s just a real dick move. I was so off-put by this and the infodump that I didn’t really feel like restarting the chapter. So now, instead of playing the game, I’m writing this.

From what I’ve seen though, the game does look promising. There seems to be work put into the lore, the music is interesting (although unorthodox for Fire Emblem), and some of the mugs look nice. I like the idea of every unit having a personal weapon, though I haven’t played the game enough to really see them in action. But these two things have sort of left a bitter taste in my mouth. I apologize if I’m being harsh, but these are my true thoughts. Hopefully these things can improve.

EDIT

So I played a bit more of Chapter 1, and I have to say that it is way too hard. Trying to save the village is quite a bit hard, and having to keep everyone alive only makes things worse when two hits will knock somebody out. I’m playing on Normal by the way. I’ve tried this chapter 4-5 times, and can’t beat it. So unfortunately, I can’t say anymore about this.

1 Like
#9

It literally says to pick Hard Mode right in the top post.

2 Likes
#10

I checked Hard Mode, and the stats seem to be identical. I don’t see how my criticism would change, unless there’s something I’m missing.

#11

The Four Kings: From prolouge to Start of Ch.4

  • Intro was way to long, can cut out the entire speech given and the two people who didn’t want to fight immediately it’s just alot of filler. so basically what Unuesu said.

  • Music and portraits are really nice except Terill but I don’t think we’ll see much of him, ever again dwaooo…

=-=-= Ch.1 =-=-=

  • Sabre being good vs swords is a nice touch for a lord weapon as opposed to the normal

  • Unuesu is right that if you head left one of the cavaliers die and it’s game over automatically.

  • Also Sword Cav has two quickblades I assume that;s an accident.

  • enemy Lance Cavalier above the village is brutal. Long range and that lance hurts really badly.

  • Enemies hurt really really badly. Most of them 2 shot your guys or leave them with 1-2HP after.
    Shamans dealing 17damage to almost all your units? When your units have 20-24HP? And only two have resistance?
    That’s alot of questionable design there.

  • Also made me realize almost every enemy has 9-10str, and 9 in at least another stat. (save fighters/brigands)
    And we get the christmas cavaliers with 8,7,5 and 5,7,8 in bases. With piddling growths. Your ranged Cavalier gets Str and Def? When he should be targetting backline units so he needs Skill,Def,Res. Your Melee cavalier gets Speed and Res? Why is Res
    useful for a brave sword unit? Also speed? He starts with a brave sword and is a SWORD user, he needs literally any other stat besides speed.

=-=-= Ch.2 =-=-=

  • No idea how you expect us to get the Swordreaver at the top of the map in Ch.2 There is way to many units and read above two bullet points.

  • SAME TURN REINFORCEMENTS
    Never in any Fire Emblem game or in any hack has this ever been a good idea. Not once. Not in one map, never.
    So let’s get to the boss warns you in Ch.2 backup is coming. Ok cool we can expect it right? Very next turn on ENEMY PHASE, 2 MAGES and 2 SHAMANS spawn from behind and rush you. Let’s go back to the fact Shamans deal 17damage your units have 20-24HP.
    Also they ambush you, and they are mages who hit you first, and you have no resistance save Sword Cav and Sword Lord.
    So let’s just… yeah. think about that. Only through the power of cheating (I blocked their spawns) was I able to beat that. Beforehand I died around 5 times to that ambush spawn.

=-=-= Ch.3 =-=-=

  • I’m not saying there is clear favoritism or anything like that. but there is. like. yeah.
    Ava is almost better then Lionel is every way, She’s better then Walter in half his stats, and she’s better then every other member of your party hands down. Let’s go down the list…

Shelby: Horrible unit. A shaman only focused on tanking and dealing mediocre damage cause dark magic. He’ll get doubled by almost everyone and has low luck so enemy crits are a thing.

Yufin: Probably the best of the bunch. High Mag/Spd growths and he uses light magic so the low skill isn’t a big of an issue. His personal tome could cause trouble, but with his mag/spd your probably won’t need to use it as much.

Lydia: Standard cleric, decent stats, no bulk, only heals so whatever. (and she got one shot by the northern archer… omegalul)

Chase: pretty average. Without his crit spell I don’t think he’s good.

=-=-= Ch.4 =-=-=

I’ma be done here, but looking at the chapter the Merc is absurdly strong. The boss is also ridiculous, but I guess the idea is not to engage him in melee unless you kill him that first hit. Once again it’s Ava time.

=-=-= Final Notes =-=-=

Ava is the MC so she’s got alot going on for her. Sword Lord just nags and has no personality, Axe Lord seems like the actual character with growth and whatnot. I like the idea of all the Mercs from the beginning come back and join you during the game,
I thought that was pretty well done. Portraits are pretty good, mages quartet needs some work. Music is good. Enemy density is really high and they hit hard. Very player phase focused game, if two or more enemies hit you it’s pretty much GG. Lionel is a great unit, but for some reason he always gets hit by the lowest numbers.

One of my biggest peeves is… Why the hell didn’t the princes take a boat to the Breyaznanan? Like it’s been half a week and they are still in their own country, they gotsa travel through ANOTHER country and then reach Bryzananana and THEN go to their capital on the other side of the country??? Like take a goddamn boat people and sail around the continent. It’s gonna be much faster then spending 2 months reaching the capital and be like “sup” and leave.

Also why are we going over there again? To improve relations? Like what are we honestly gonna do once we arrive? Bang the princess? Raise the King from the dead or poop out some gold? We all know Bronzayanansn is probably evil if not our own country for ignoring everything wrong in their lands. So we probably carrying a bomb and gonna blow up their castle or something like that. Anyways it’s not explained well why they are doing their journey and why they aren’t taking a BOAT.

1 Like
#12

So I actually gave this a try, which I never do. Became intrigued from the recent feedback. Got to ch. 4 – will continue when I have time.

I like the concept of everyone having a personal weapon. Makes each character a lot more unique, not just relying on stats or skills (of which a bunch are luck based). Sure, certain units have better starting stats/growths, but I found I could tactically use each character because of their weapons.

Chapter 1 was fun. Challenging, definitely not impossibly hard. Enemies hit hard, but have little def so so do the player units. Meaning if you make a mistake, you can very easily lose one of your units. Nothing wrong with that. Don’t like when I can just send a good unit out and have him clear the enemies during the enemy phase. I very much prefer this type of difficulty because it keeps me aware and thinking.

I don’t understand the deal with the cavaliers dying and why this is a problem. They show up on the second turn. Lionel is good vs swords – 2 merc and a fighter to the left, so he handled it alone. Other two went top, recruited the cavs, and I was off to the races. Yes, I worried about chewing through vulneraries but got a healer in ch3 so it was all good.

How is ‘enemies dealing significant damage’ questionable design? If you can 2 shot your enemies, why can’t they do the same to you? It makes “picking your battles” a necessity, something that should always happen in a strategy game but doesn’t in FE for whatever reason.

Anyway, map design was good. I liked each one, particularly ch.3. I think you went a little easy on us with some of the stationary units, but lol they were a nice break. Guess I enjoyed it because I felt like I was playing advance wars with some custom weapons thrown in. I noticed some “strange” design choices (cav having 5 str growth or something, etc.) but saw no reason playing these couple chapters to question them.

Thanks for posting. Sorry I don’t really have any opinions on story/characters/portraits/etc. Not really my “thing”. Music was catchy. Hope you continue in whatever way you see fit.

also SUPA SONIC RACING 10/10

EDIT: Just went back and did ch.2 again and got the top village. Definitely tricky. Also yes, same turn reinforcements can be stupid, but they show up on turn 5 so in this case it’s ok/ plus it adds importance to the objective of ESCAPE. If you’re not passed mid map by then, not sure what to tell you lol. Never had a problem with them, you can 1 shot shamans with Walter/lance cav and mages get cleaned up easily. :man_shrugging:

So yeah, only ever lost a unit when attempting to get the top village. Took me a couple tries. I fully support your gameplay design.