Incest in my hack

[Alice]

After reading some of the replies here, I’ll give my two cents on this:

If you want to include incest, go for it.

If you think it makes sense for your story, and feel it would be awkward if it was only implied, then go ahead. I don’t think you should be judged because you include sensitive topics in your story.

Because here’s the kicker: People don’t necessarily support all of what they write into their stories.
All FE games deal with Murder in some way. Doesn’t mean the devs at Intelligent Systems are murderers. A lot of Kaga’s games have scenes where a young damsel gets captured by enemies who plan on doing you-know-what to them. Doesn’t mean Kaga is on a watchlist. Or even a more relatable experience: Some FE games have depictions of racism. Doesn’t mean the writters are racist.

So I say: Go nuts! If you wanna add incest to your story, and you think it makes sense, then you should do it.

And I would also consider the general advice others have given. Like don’t make an overly explicit scene, be tasteful about it, etc… But most importanly: Don’t let anyone stop you from telling the story YOU wanna tell.

Sensitive topics or not, what most impacts the success of a story is not necessarily the contents, but the execution. If you study up on some writting tips and principals, you write almost any you want

[Alice]

@Permafrost

A last thing that this thread made me think of was something my professor said when I took anthropology as an undergrad. I’ve never looked into how robust the science is on this, so take it with a grain of salt, but the professor said that the human brain is wired to not perceive people that it grew up in close proximity to as potential sexual partners as a sort of natural incest blocker to promote genetic diversity. Then she added that you’re unlikely to fall in love with someone if you already know how their farts smell.

Sigmund Freud would disagree.

[LewynCollins]

@Permafrost

A last thing that this thread made me think of was something my professor said when I took anthropology as an undergrad. I’ve never looked into how robust the science is on this, so take it with a grain of salt, but the professor said that the human brain is wired to not perceive people that it grew up in close proximity to as potential sexual partners as a sort of natural incest blocker to promote genetic diversity.

It’s a hypothesis called the Westermarck Effect. I don’t know if it has been proved, but it makes sense. Genetics are amazing.

@Alice

If you want to include incest, go for it.

Honestly, after seeing that there is (implicit) necrophilia in Sacred Stones, putting incest into anything shouldn’t be too sensitive to anyone

@Alice

Sigmund Freud would disagree.

Well, not exactly. The truth behind Freud’s theory is not that you are attracted to your own mother, but that you are attracted to motherly charms. This is, you are attracted to the kind of traits that you see as ideal to the upbringing of the potential children you may have with her. I spoke from the perspective of a man, but it’s the same with women and dads.

[Alice]

I only brought up Freud as a joke. Haha.

But yeah. In short, official FE has done sensitive topics too, so hackers shouldn’t hold themselves back.

Also, another thing that I think has been overlooked so far in this thread is that hacks, by their very nature, are never gonna come out finished on the first iteration. And thus, are subject to change. OP can rework the story as they see fit down the line.

[LewynCollins]

@Alice

I only brought up Freud as a joke

I figured that, but I also thought that I might as well put my own grain of knowledge, as little as it may be

@Alice

And thus, are subject to change. OP can rework the story as they see fit down the line.

Bruh I followed The Sun God’s Wrath since it was 5 chapters, the game changed almost entirely every update

[Switch2]

As long as its use in a way thats a tool for story telling and its not like you’re supporting incest everywhere in irl then id say go for it.

But still, since its your first story, i can’t say whether its a good idea to have incest to an extent since theres gonna he some people frowning at the sight of it, and it of course won’t give a good first impressions on those people, which could cause them to not want to look into the rest of your future storys, but, i don’t think you should really mind those people that hate on things just cuz of specific small themes, do what you think is best for your story, after all its your story so who knows more about what the best option to take for your story than you.

[Glofrithu]

One of the most famous legends has incest in it: The Legend of King Arthur. Nothing more needs to be said at this point. Incest is perfectly suitable for a game (Fire Emblem) that bases most of it’s lore off of Shakespearean theatre. (I’m also laughing about it, because it could be seen as somewhat absurd.).

[theghostcreator]

False equivalence

[Ericc]

This thread somehow managed to stay alive for 40 posts after OP decided against including incest in their project.

Do you people not have other things to work on? If you’ve got a lot of spare time and want to make equally useless forum posts elsewhere I’d suggest checking out this new epic group project (which is epic).

[DATonDemand]

Yknow it’s kinda funny how the thread is alive and that somehow dies emblem has been linked twice lol

[JohnnyPetronel]

Excellently put. And you made your points with no personal attacks either.
Some people could stand to learn a thing or two from you.

Bruh, like throwing back my words in my face and adding a or whatever that was at the end, as well as “you seem weirdly upset about this, man”. What kind of definition do some of the people on here have of civilised discussion here anyway? ( that thingie is something written in the FEU rules policy, btw, if I’m not mistaken)

@Alice

Because here’s the kicker: People don’t necessarily support all of what they write into their stories.

THANK YOU! Preach it louder to the people in the back!
I have been a regular fanfiction reader since high school, and to come on here and see stuff like “FE romhacks aren’t the appropriate medium to explore more mature topics” is really bizarre to me.

I could use the “we could literally die at any moment. Why not write what you want while you can?” card, but then I would have even more assumptions made about me. Like, in what kind of dystopia are we now living in that a user can participate in a public conversation, and then get outright insulted and made fun of by the opposing party not in private, by talking about it with friends or whatnot, but publicly, and in the same discussion, while whoever is in charge just stands idly by.

@Ericc

This thread somehow managed to stay alive for 40 posts after OP decided against including incest in their project.

Do you people not have other things to work on?

To be honest, I’ve been waiting for the esteemed owner of this website to shut this thread for a while now, since, ya know, their only contribution to this conversation was: "Finally, someone ridicule these fools and get the perfect reply so they can feel humilitated:

@CT075

the thought has certainly crossed my mind and I’m not a huge fan of this thread existing, but the conversation has by-and-large been a lot more self-aware than similar threads in the past so we’re tentatively letting it play out in the hopes that we can get some of the why your edgy plot ideas will make your hack bad written out in longform for once

Anyways, to get back to you:

@Ericc

Do you people not have other things to work on?

I am not a hacker, and came here just to discuss (You know, like the Community tag entails?), and got treated like a gum stuck beneath someone’s shoes for my troubles.

@BigMood

I would like to openly invite anyone who participated in this thread to please submit yourselves for my upcoming project Dies Emblem so I can make fun of you directly. You can ignore the clause about being funny; you guys are more than sufficient.

TLDR: I humbly apologize for not being able to see the light sooner like some of you, and was not able to immediately grasp the noble intention of keeping Fire Emblem Romhacks pure and not-edgy.
Now that I’ve been insulted and mocked I feel much better, and can more easily see your point of view.

[Olivia]

@JohnnyPetronel

Bruh, like throwing back my words in my face and adding a or whatever that was at the end, as well as “you seem weirdly upset about this, man”. What kind of definition do some of the people on here have of civilised discussion here anyway? ( that thingie is something written in the FEU rules policy, btw, if I’m not mistaken)

yeah it was a emoji

[Parrhesia]

I have zero issue with the OP, the guy came in with a question and was receptive to answers. But some of the replies in this thread have shown a remarkable willingness to embarrass themselves in public by making this their hill to die on, that cousin-fucking is some kind of Worthy Statement™, a crusade against a grand Illuminati. In my view the fact that people feel bold enough to raise their heads above the parapet for this of all things signals a worrying failure of bullying in the Fire Emblem community, and I for one welcome BigMood’s efforts to remind people to feel shame at their impropriety.

[LeskLyfeld]

@Parrhesia

that cousin-fucking is some kind of Worthy Statement™

I want to let it be known that I am completely in favor of cousin*(except your own)-fucking and that it is a very Worthy Statement™.

[Ericc]

[7743]

Is this thread still going to continue?

I have explained before that there are advantages to inbreeding.
I believe that if we could magically eliminate genetic diseases, we would eliminate the disadvantages of inbreeding and gain only the advantages.

Why is consanguineous marriage bad? Each field of study gives a different answer to this question.
There is an interesting youtube video I am referring to, but it is in Japanese literature, so it is hard to post the link.
It is interesting to think about the taboos in human history (murder, consanguineous marriage, cannibalism, etc.) and why they are considered no-no.

And once you know why they are considered no-no’s, if you can solve them, it becomes possible.
There are some advantages, too.

For example, homosexuality used to be considered a sin, but that is not the case today.
Of course, there are cultures where homosexuality is considered a sin.

Similarly, there are animals that should not be eaten.
Some religions and cultures forbid eating pigs, cows, and four-legged animals.
Some cultures prohibit alcohol or allow polygamy.

Even if something is taboo, it is interesting to think and see why it is not allowed and what would happen if it were possible.

[Contro]

Hoo boy. Uh… I think we’ve explored this topic enough.
I don’t normally say this, but we probably could do with the thread getting locked now.

[cb1052]

@7743

Is this thread still going to continue?

I have explained before that there are advantages to inbreeding.
I believe that if we could magically eliminate genetic diseases, we would eliminate the disadvantages of inbreeding and gain only the advantages.

Arvis wrote this post guys no way I can’t believe the emperor of Grannvale made FEBuilder

[Ysor]

Im not reading all that lil bro. Congratulations or sorry it happened, whatever applies.

[7743]

I have an intellectual curiosity.
It is a driving force to move forward.