A idea for a rom hack

TheEmeraldKing267 · November 23, 2021, 9:17pm

One day i was looking at fan made Fire Emblem rom hack through here and on YouTube. When suddenly i get a thought of my own Fire Emblem rom hack. And i been thinking about it sense then. I will say this that i am in capable of making this hack myself. I only pitching this because i thought it would be a fun idea to me at least.

So the named of my hack would be called Fire Emblem United.

You will get to play as familiar Fire Emblem Character heroes as well as many of its villains throughout many of the games. With a unique story and a total of 70+ playable characters.

Story
The story center around the order of heroes mainly Ephraim and Eirika facing off against a group of villains led by King Zephiel and Valter. The two forces battle it out in the kingdom of Nifl. After the clash between the two factions they are interrupted by the sudden arrival of former vice minister Duke Lekain. Along with him he captured many of the deities with just one more deity he after which is Byleth/Sothis. Lekain announce his plan to both the heroes and the villains to absorb the deities powers to brainwash them to obey him. And for Lekain to harness the deity powers to become a god. So this lead to both the order of heroes and Zephiel factions to put aside they differences and join forces. So both the heroes and villains have to fight off against the Disciples of Order monsters and even some of the deities themselves to stop Lekain.

Main Playable Characters
These characters are important to the overall story.

Heroes side

Villains side

Non important Playable Characters
These are all playable characters that have no involvement in the main story.

Heroes side

Villains side

These characters would be unlock in side quests throughout the story.

So what did you think about my idea? And if someone like it some much that they want to turn this idea for a rom hack into reality then by all mean knock you self out i guess.

dancer_A · November 23, 2021, 9:41pm

just play feh

Goldblitzx · November 23, 2021, 10:41pm

Does this count as a make my hack moment or not?

File2ish · November 23, 2021, 11:04pm

Why not try to make it yourself? There’s fun to be had in crafting a story.

If I recall you said in another post that you don’t have access to a computer to do such (post was about sprites if I recall?). Doesn’t mean you can’t get a head start on writing the story. You do at least have access to a phone or tablet which you can use a word processor to write something up (dialogue, notes on story events, etc.). Perhaps in the future when/if you get access to a desktop/laptop, you can apply it to your own romhack or whatnot.

Mikey_Seregon · November 23, 2021, 11:35pm

I wonder if something like this has been attempted before

Now just wait another 10 years for me to finish 20 of the 35+ chapters planned.

Vesly · November 24, 2021, 12:03pm

feh is evil gacha

Permafrost · November 24, 2021, 6:09pm

Fire Emblem Warriors then?

Goldblitzx · November 25, 2021, 7:31pm

Why not just play Deity Device, it has all you need!!!

TheEmeraldKing267 · November 26, 2021, 6:14am

Main story chapters

Chapter 1 Brother and Sister.
Boss Batta

Objective rout the enemy’s.

Chapter 2 Bandits Ahoy.
Boss Glass

Objective rout the enemy’s.

Chapter 3 Deception.
Boss mind control Ephraim

Objective defeat Ephraim.

Chapter 4 Castle Takeover.
Boss Tirado & Zonta

Objective defeat both enemy commanders.

Chapter 5 Taking Back the Fort.
Boss Zugu & Scouran

Objective seize the fort.

Chapter 6 a Heroic Clash Part 1.
Boss Wire & Ursula

Objective defeat both enemy commanders.

Chapter 6 a Heroic Clash Part 2.
Boss Glass & Gelero

Objective defeat both enemy commanders.

Chapter 6 a Heroic Clash Part 3.
Boss Valter Galle Brunnya Murdock & Zephiel

Objective defeat Valter and Zephiel.

Chapter 7 Sudden Arrival.
Boss mind control Byleth

Objective defeat Byleth.

Chapter 8 United.
Boss Laverton

Objective rout the enemy’s.

Chapter 9 Getting on Board.
Boss Numida

Objective seize gate.

Chapter 10 Duke Lekain.
Boss Lekain

Objective free your allies & defeat Lekain.

Chapter 11 Landing at Chalphy Part 1.
Boss Yuma

Objective seize gate.

Chapter 11 Arriving at Leonster Part 2.
Boss Catalena

Objective seize gate.

Chapter 12 Showdown at Renais.
Boss Lekain

Objective rout the enemy’s.

Chapter 13 Bandits Strike Back.
Boss Puzon

Objective defeat Puzon.

Chapter 14 Planing Preparation.
Boss Seth

Objective spar with Seth.

Chapter 15 Mila the Earth Mother.
Boss Rude & Windham

Objective protect Mila for 7 turns.
Failed Objective Mila dies.

Chapter 16 Múspell the Flame God.
Boss Múspell

Objective grab the item then escape.

Chapter 17 Naga the Divine Dragon.
Boss Yuma Catalena & Numida

Objective protect Naga for 10 turn or defeat all enemy commanders.
Failed Objective Naga dies.

Chapter 18 Grima the Fell Dragon.
Boss Grima

Objective grab the item then escape.

Chapter 19 Nifi the Ice Goddess.
Boss mind control Nifi Kenneth & Riev

Objective defeat Kenneth and Riev.
Failed Objective Nifi dies.

Chapter 20 Duma the War Father.
Boss Duma

Objective defeat Duma.

Chapter 21 Tiki the Dragon Scion
Boss mind control Levail & mind control Zelgius

Objective defeat Zelgius.

Chapter 22 Finding Sigurd.
Boss Aion

Objective seize gate.

Finale Chapter a Deity Rumble Part 1.
Boss Múspell Grima & Duma

Objective defeat all enemy commanders.
Failed Objective Byleth Mila Naga Nifi and Tiki dies.

Finale Chapter a Friend in Hand Part 2.
Boss mind control Sigurd

Objective defeat Sigurd.

Finale Chapter Lekain Final Stand.
Final Boss Lekain

Objective finish off Lekain.
Failed Objective 10 turn pass.

Epilogue Chapter Wrapping Things Up.
Boss Scouran Zugu Zonta Tirado Galle Murdock Brunnya Gelero Glass Wire Ursula Valter & Zephiel

Objective rout the enemy commanders.

KaidenMelon · November 26, 2021, 6:43pm

cool and all but i think people are just confused why your telling us all of this when nothing is really being done

XPGamesNL · November 26, 2021, 7:12pm

The idea of the hack is nice and I’m happy you shared it, but the harsh truth is that the chance of someone actually developing this hack is extremely slim. Making a hack is not something you can do in a day or two. It requires a lot of time, playtesting, thought, A LOT of resources and feedback. I myself struggle to accomplish a good balance of all these elements when developing my own hack and it is kinda logical if you’re a one man team. I have learned to work faster through experience (thanks 1h/2h blitz :3), but that does not take away that I spent a huge amount of time (5/6 years) on my own hack already.

All of the points above are things you need to consider while making a hack and most people realise that. Making a hack is not really a charity work kinda thing, because all of those time consuming elements come into play. You’ll have a higher chance of playing this idea as a hack if you develop it yourself or gather a team to help you work on it. There is a lot of groundwork and tutorials already done, so your hack could become an awesome masterpiece.

The amount of chapters (~25), in combination with the many playable and enemy characters (which will all require portraits) and other resources like maps, music, palettes, animations, tilesets, etc. are a lot of things that have to be made. Even after getting all of that together you would still have to the gameplay, story and balance of the hack, which costs a lot more time.

I would even recommend making the hack yourself, as it gets you involved with the hacks progress and design decisions. You will find out what part of your idea will and won’t work. 70+ playable characters is something that my hack also had in the first stages here on FEUniverse and others advised me to make the roster smaller. Big rosters bring a lot of downsides with them that are not only limited to gameplay, plus it increases the amount of work by a lot. Then there is also the risk of recieving something completely different from what you actually wanted in the first place if someone else starts making the hack.

I really appreciate your creativeness and the fact that you share your idea. If you really wish to see this masterpiece translated into a game however, I’d advise to learn how to make a hack yourself. Either way, I wish you good luck on future endeavours.

TheEmeraldKing267 · November 28, 2021, 6:02am

Side Quest.

Alm and Celica Side Quest.
Boss Batta

Objective rout the enemy’s.

Silque Side Quest.
Boss Oro

Objective protect the priestess for 8 turn or defeat Oro.
Failed Objective any of the priestess dies.

Tatiana and Zeke Side Quest.
Boss Heintz Sandima & Jamil

Objective protect Tatiana for 9 turn.
Failed Objective Tatiana dies.

Arden Side Quest.
Boss Breguet & Saar

Objective seize both gates.

Lewyn and Lahna Side Quest.
Boss Myos & Daccar

Objective rescued Lahna.
Failed Objective Daccar get away with Lahna.

Julia Side Quest.
Boss Julius

Objective defeat Julius.

Seliph Side Quest.
Boss Gerrard Pizarl & Necrodragon

Objective defeat the Necrodragon.

Leif Side Quest.
Boss Raydrik

Objective seize throne.

Dagdar Side Quest.
Boss mind control Marty mind control Tanya & Gomes

Objective defeat Gomes.

Roy and Lilina Side Quest.
Boss Henning

Objective grab the item and defeat Henning.

Bors Side Quest.
Boss Devias & Leygance

Objective defeat both enemy commanders.

Echidna Side Quest.
Boss Binks

Defeat Binks.

Gonzalez Side Quest.
Boss Bone Damas & Groznyi

Objective defend the village for 10 turns.
Failed objective letting any enemy get to the village.

Ninian Side Quest.
Boss Sonia Limstella & Ephidel

Objective defend Nils for 8 turns.
Failed Objective Nils dies.

Florina Side Quest.
Boss Migal

Objective escort Florina to safety.
Failed Objective Florina dies.

Marcus Side Quest.
Boss Marcus & Lowen

Objective spar with Marcus.

Erk Side Quest.
Boss mind control Serra & Schaeffer

Objective protect Priscilla and defeat Schaeffer.
Failed Priscilla and Serra dies.

Nino and Jaffar Side Quest.
Boss Jerme & Pascal

Objective escape.

L’Arachel Side Quest.
Boss Necrodragon & Slayde

Objective rout the enemy’s

Joshua Side Quest.
Boss Caellach

Objective defeat Caellach.

Tana Side Quest.
Boss Díthorba

Objective defeat Díthorba.

Soren Side Quest.
Boss Petrine

Objective rout the enemy’s.

Mist Side Quest.
Boss Pallardó

Objective protect Rolf and defeat Pallardó.
Failed Objective Rolf dies.

Jill Side Quest.
Boss Flaer
Flaer
Objective protect the village for 8 turns or defeat Flaer.
Failed Objective letting any enemy get to the village.

Tibarn Side Quest.
Boss Naesala

Objective defeat Naesala.

Edelgard Dimitri and Claude Side Quest.
Boss Edelgard Dimitri & Claude

Objective spar with the three houses leaders.

Yuri Side Quest.
Boss Balthus Hapi Constance & Yuri

Objective spar with the Ashen Wolves.

Ferdinand Side Quest.
Boss Death Knight

Objective protect Duke Aegir for 9 turns.
Failed Objective Duke Aegir dies.

Dedue Side Quest.
Boss Duscur General.

Objective defeat more enemy then the green units.
Failed Objective green units defeat more enemy or Duscur General dies to the green units.

Marianne Side Quest.
Boss 2+ Necrodragon & Riev

Objective defeat Riev.

Constance Side Quest.
Boss mind control Lorenz

Objective rout the enemy’s.

Shamir Side Quest.
Boss Gustav

Objective defeat Gustav.

Anna Side Quest.
Boss Anna

Objective protect Anna and rout the enemy’s.
Failed Objective Anna dies

Judith Side Quest.
Boss Acheron

Objective defeat Acheron.

Eldigan Side Quest.
Boss Chagall.

Objective seize throne.

Clement Side Quest.
Boss Boldor & Macbeth

Objective escort Clement to safely.
Failed Objective Clement dies.

Sigune Side Quest.
Boss mind control Juno & mind control Zelot

Objective defeat both enemy commanders.

Slater Side Quest.
Boss Maggie Rose Jasmine & Paul

Objective rout the enemy’s

Lloyd and Linus Side Quest.
Boss Arcard Roartz Pablo Kant & Desaix

Objective defeat all enemy commanders.
Failed Objective any enemy commander escape.

Bauker Side Quest.
Boss Bauker & Bernard

Objective spar with Bauker.

Bool Side Quest.
Boss Pallardó

Objective rout the enemy’s.

Lyon Side Quest.
Boss Fomortiis

Objective defeat Fomortiis.

Murray Side Quest.
Boss Sealen mind control Heath & Eubans

Objective protect the villagers for 10 turns or defeat Eubans.
Failed Objective all of the villagers dies.

Oliver Side Quest.
Boss mind control Nedata mind control Grieth & Novala

Objective protect both Reyson and Leanne and defeat Novala.
Failed Objective Reyson or Leanne dies.

Heddwyn Side Quest.
Boss Necrodragon & Teodor

Objective grab the item then escape.

Kostas Side Quest.
Boss Bazba

Objective defeat Bazba.

Kiran Side Quest.
Boss Alfonso Sharena & Kiran

Objective defeat all enemy commanders.

Goldblitzx · November 28, 2021, 10:49pm

Thats like a gaiden for every map and more, wow

Levin64 · November 29, 2021, 2:24am

Changing this thread’s category to concepts, because this leans towards one person (read: idea guy) dumping their ideas into one thread wondering if a kind soul will put these brilliant ideas into a hack

To be completely blunt, all of this time you made these posts could be used to apply these ideas into your ROM, soooo eh

like what XPGamesNL said, no one cares about your ideadumping here unless you do something about it, like maybe… start applying them into the ROM? you said you are capable to make the hack yourself, then why not do it?

anyways, good luck for your hacking adventures

Contro · November 29, 2021, 2:47am

“I will say this that i am in capable of making this hack”

I think they were trying to say incapable

LeskLyfeld · November 29, 2021, 9:41am

For all the dump that has happened so far, it doesn’t even feel like a good dump on my point of view - it’s just a massive amount of random bosses with little to no correlation on a plot that is never told.

Although being ambitious is a good thing, there’s far and then TOO far, and from one idea guy to another (and a story man myself if you squint hard enough), there are 0 things that entice me to follow into this and try to give it something further than this barebones system.

If I want a game where I start as Eirika and then the Fe8 plot suddenly turns insane and merges with another game, then Emulation Theory is there for me, and if what I want is the Heroes system, well… uh… yeah.

It just feels like a random blurb of “ideas” that are just unrealistic and off-the-ground, unknowing of the game’s own limitations.

Levin64 · November 29, 2021, 3:00pm

whoop me smol brain

but anyway i agree with what Lesk said
my suggestion is to add a small summary of each chapter’s plot, at least so people know why these people are here in the first place

like for example, why do we spar with Bauker and Bernard on Bauker’s Side Quest? why do we spar with Seth? why do we need to escort Clement? what’s the premise of us protecting Anna? why are most of the people being mind controlled? i know the idea is basically every FE character is in the hack but… why are they here? how did they get here? something like that yada yada

also idr if you can have 70+ playable characters in GBAFE so…

XPGamesNL · November 29, 2021, 3:04pm

I can confirm that 70+ playable characters in FEGBA is impossible. Pandan told me this when I started The Prophecy Of Flames. 70+ characters just can’t be handled by the system, as there is a cap on playable units that lies under that 70+ amount. If you go above that cap, characters will suddenly not join the party anymore and dissapear. It is possible in terms of slots, just not in terms of memory and deployment.

LeskLyfeld · November 29, 2021, 3:23pm

not if you start killing all of them for replacement units - but its true that 70+ at the same time won’t be possible, but could (and would still be hell of a mess) work with exclusive/replacement chars and such.

Ryn · November 30, 2021, 12:27am

As a friend. They are, replaceable