Wyvern Riders: Lances or Axes

[LeskLyfeld]

Now give each one of them an iron weapon and tell me who gets slowed down and who doesn’t. (Since on rescuing, not only do their Spd stat get halved, but they still take a Spd penalty due to weight still equal to Wt-Con, disregarding the loss of half your Spd stat).

Even then, the argument of “Vanilla Fire Emblem gives women less con” is something that has been pushed aside in most romhacks as they equalize Aid bonuses.

Point is: Imagine training for pegasus and being unable to wield the most basic of weapons of your class.

[FuriousHaunter]

Use a Slim Lance.

If you are rescuing you shouldn’t do combat anyway, The point was that they retain more speed when rescuing as such you can not get doubled as often, not “Peg combat is still good when rescuing”.

[Alice]

I have ultimately decided that I’m gonna do:
Wyvern Rider, Lances. Wyvern Lord, Lances + Axes on promo. Wyvern Knight, Lances.

However, I do welcome y’all to keep discussing, because it’s a really interesting design point. Also kinda funny that I get 7 notifications on this thread alone just this last night.

Mods, please don’t close this thread.

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@FuriousHaunter

In Closing

Overall Pegs are better at rescue and you get fewer Wyverns and you probably don’t want to waste them doing support jobs when they could delete the map, that combined with the generally lower Aid means that they tend to be worse rescuers, that’s not to say they’re bad, hell some are really good, there are even situations you want them to rescue [such as in Chains or rescuing a partner into an area to delete enemies together], but it’s not the thing you are going to do with them most often.

Pegs on the other hand do have the room to play a support role as they tend to be worse at combat doing clean up or reaching side objectives as they lack the combat prowess of Wyverns, they are also more common and join earlier allowing them to do things Wyverns just can’t, they can get early resources if needed and generally will be at least somewhat trained.

This is sorta how I am doing it in my hack.

Peg Knights no longer promote to Wyvern Knight, but rather Kinshi Knight (Animation is still on a pegasus).

And these roles are further reflected on the skills:

Wyvern Lords get Tantivy, Wyvern Knights get Lunge. Falcon Knights get Savior, and Kinshi Knights get Deliverer.

[adalvar]

What does Deliverer do?

[Alice]

+2 movement when the user is rescueing another unit

[MeatOfJustice]

While Lances are more practical for a flier, I still value weapon variety more so I prefer Axes.

The way I’d do it is:

• Wyvern Riders get axes, Wyvern Lords earn Lances and Wyvern Knights earn Swords.
• Pegasus Knights get lances, Falcoknights earn Swords or Staves and Griffon Riders earn Bows.

Of course, some things would get rebalanced: Swords get a common 1-2 range weapon and Falcoknights get a Con buff and are faster than Wyvern Knights, not to mention the skills they all learn.