My take on a sequel to Elysium Ablaze

[TheEmeraldKing267]

Hi there. If you haven’t heard of a fe7 rom hack called Elysium Ablaze by @TritraSerpifeu is a original hack built off of pme called The Blazing Silver by @anon72503772. If you know a thing about Elysium Ablaze you should know that i happen to be one of the co writer for that hack. I was mainly responsible for the world building, tons of character moments, and plot points to help distance itself from just being a Blazing Blade style story. So what if i say that the story that ended in Elysium Ablaze didn’t actually ended there. How would i continue the story set in our version of Elibe? What sort of new enemies and factions would Aireth, Throne, Anthea and Madoka be up against now? Let us see.

One year after the Lycian Civil War and The Black Fang defeat peace have returned to both Lycia and Elibe. One day theTactician, Throne, Aireth and Anthea were all call upon by Marquess Madoka of Pherae as she uncovered a plot by Ryerde’s own Marquess McCullough. As he team up with a group of bandits called themselves The Crocodile Gang to kickstart an another Lycian Civil War. They were successful in stopping McCullough plan and arrest him along with the gangs leader. While thankfully another war has been prevented the arrest of McCullough would drive out another faction to come out of the shadows and reveal themselves. They are known as The Ice Viper Clan. The Ice Vipers are a group of sacaens that have survived the sacaen massacre cause the now deceased Daimler. The Vipers are lead by the Princess Sera. Sera seek revenge against the Lycians for the deaths of many of her people during the massacre including the death of her parents. Now that McCullough is now removed from power any current Marquess remain she no longer considered a threat. So she and The Ice Viper Clan begin they hostile takeover of Lycian Territories. It’s up to Aireth, Throne and Anthea to stop Princess Sera. However another faction enter the picture as well called The Golden Vulture Company. The Golden Vultures are a group of mercenaries lead by the greedy yet brutal man name Rufus Vin Stump. Rufus and his mercenaries are hired by Lord Bertram a noble of House Pherae. Bertram hired The Vultures to fight off against The Ice Vipers invasion. While Throne, Aireth and Anthea may seem like neutral allies towards The Golden Vultures at first. As the story goes on they would become enemies as well as it later revealed that Bertram have has own agenda as well. And that is to overthrow Madoka as marquess of Pherae and release McCullough and other corrupt politicians and individuals that Madoka has lock up in prison. Can Throne, Aireth and Anthea stop both The Ice Vipers and The Golden Vultures at once? Can Aireth reason with Sera? And will Madoka life be in jeopardy?

And that is it. Now there is an another one i did have plan being focus on Mina and Tyche but that one is not nearly as in depth nor as interesting as this one. Plus i would probably leave that work to FuriousHaunter instead. With that being said no this is not a calling card to Greenlight a sequel to Elysium Ablaze. I know that both Tritra and SilverRoy have other projects they are working on. I simply made this post to share my ideas to you all. If you want to try to bring my idea to life with what i just present then by all means knock yourself out if you can.

Anyway have a wonderful day to you all.

[TritraSerpifeu]

That sounds kinda fun. Who knows maybe I can one day use Elysium Ablaze as a base to do a “Elysium Ablaze Part 2” using the same rom as a base. Similar to FE3. Who knows, considering how much space the rom still has maybe Anthea mode can be turned into a sequel campaign. Just that maybe instead of the Tactician helping out with the Black Fang conflict they just do something else in another part of Elibe so that once they return Elysium Ablaze already happened.

One thing I can imagine is that maybe the remaining Crossbreeds are tamed. Basically they use their hivemind to create a communication systems between owners of Crossbreeds, kinda like telephones. I can also imagine that they are given a new name “Mock Laguz”. And then there would be a playable character who is pretty bad but since they fed a Mock Laguz regularly one of them joins as a green unit each time you deploy said character.

Although I am not sure I will develop this game, especially since my current Christmas project is a game I make with a sense of it being my final FE project. But still, brainstorming is fun and if anyone wants to modify Elysium Ablaze to have a new campaign or stuff like that, go ahead! Elysium Ablaze is a game with many people helping out due to the character submissions, I can pass on the torch further if anyone is interested. (But please do still ask/notify me lol.)

[TheEmeraldKing267]

Now if this was an actual rom hack i would make this game 8 or 9 chapters long. Very long roms would not be my specialty.

And here are the portraits i would use for the new characters.

Princess Sera Leader of The Ice Viper Clan.

Credit to JeyTheCount and Matthieu

Rufus Vin Stump Leader of The Golden Vulture Company.

Credit to Toa

Lord Betram a noble of House Pherae and employer to The Golden Vultures.

Credit to LaurentLacroix

Lux leader of The Crocodile Gang.

Credit to MegaCowsamMan

[DATonDemand]

So… When we talking about changing that would to a will ey?

[TheEmeraldKing267]

Now here’s the i would a vision of a playable roster for the sequel. Mainly just characters that would return to be playable again here.

There are 27 returning playable from Elysium Ablaze. While there are 37 units from Elysium Ablaze that won’t return to be playable this time. There will also be 8 new playable units that wasn’t playable in the first. Plus one new extra playable unit near the end of the game. Bumping up the sequel with a 36 total playable characters.

[TheEmeraldKing267]

Pardon?

[TheAtlas]

At this point, maybe you should reach out to creator of Elysium Ablaze to see if you could actually make the sequel. Might be cool to see these ideas come to life.

[TheEmeraldKing267]

Tritra is currently busy with they own project christmas project right now. This post is made just for me to brainstorm ideas as well as share them with others.

[TheEmeraldKing267]

Here the list of all 8 new playable units for this sequel, + a hidden playable character.

1 Bastet: Serket’s devoted servant.

Credit to VelvenKitsune

2 Perseus: Son of Artemis.

Credit to SaintRubenio

3 Spencer: Newly soldier of Pherae.

Credit to Garytop

4 Ellie: Newly servant of House Caelin.

Credit to Raymond

5 Fritz: Freelance Mercenary

Credit to SSHX

6 Naomi: Former member of The Ice Viper Clan.

Credit to Lenh

7 Gerald: Former member of The Golden Vulture Company.

Credit to RandomWizard

8 Jinn: The Genie of the Lamp from Nabata.

Credit to Alexsplode

Tab here for the hidden character reveal

9 Princess Sera: Leader of The Ice Viper Clan.

Credit to JeyTheCount and Matthieu

[TritraSerpifeu]

Yeah. Btw, if you want to make it on your own go ahead to. Just make sure you have the permissions from all the people who submitted characters for the original PME to be in a sequel.

Honestly I think I will retreat from the Internet next year, y’know do other things and stuff. But I like the ideas of this sequel a lot, so if anyone wants to take a crack at it, go ahead.

[TheEmeraldKing267]

The sequel will have over ten chapters in total.

Chapter 1: The Warmongering Marquess.

Objective: Defeat both McCullough and Lux

Chapter 2: Entering the Beast Domain.

Objection: Rout the Enemy

Chapter 3: A New Threat.

Objective: Defend the Village for the next 15 turns
Failed Objective: Three village houses get destroyed

Chapter 4: Unlikely Alliance.

Objective: Rout the Enemy

Chapter 5: Crossing Paths.

Objective: Escape.
Failed Objective: Any one of your units die

Chapter 6: The Three Factions Standoff.

Objective: Defeat both Enemy Commanders

Chapter 7: The Vengeful Princess.

Objective: Defeat Sera.
Failed Objective: Failed to defeat Sera within the next 20 turns

Chapter 8: The Rescue Plan.

Objective: Seize the Throne
Failed Objective: Failed to seize within the next 25 turns.

Chapter 9: Liberate on Pherae.

Objective: Defeat Rufus

Finale: A Battle for a Better Tomorrow.

Objective: Defeat ???

[TritraSerpifeu]

Huh, seems like the trend of using maps from the GBA era will continue.
But I don’t think that is a bad thing, just make sure that these maps feel unique.

Honestly the game looks like more and more like something you could actually make huh. Seems like you have the whole thing planned out.

Btw I could imagine that we add Tier 3 promotions. Maybe it could be something like Tier 3 promotions are all joined branches that combine several Tier 2 classes.
Although I would think the lords already are Tier 3 because the classes they have are stronger than Tier 2 classes.
Then I could see something like maybe all magical classes becoming one “Omni Mage” that is a mounted mage using all four types of magic causing all classes to become their best self. Valkyrie obtains more weapon types, Magical Armor aren’t tied down by their armor anymore.
Who knows if we want maybe the Ice Vipers have Tier 3 promotions as one of their special powers, like they managed to gain a lot of what only Thorne, Anthea and Aireth got in Elysium Ablaze.
I think it would be cool to allow characters to become even stronger similar to what Radiant Dawn did.

Btw here is a small chart for the classes Tier 3:

All Only Magical Classes → Mounted All four magic types
All Dual Physical Classes → Mounted All four weapon types
All +15 Crit Classes & Assasin → Infantry All four weapon types +15 Crit (Thief utility, loses Assasinate)
All Flying Classes → Flying Sword/Lance/Axe/Staff

While they would greatly reduce the variety of your wclasses I can imagine they will be rare due to being a weapon of the enemy and some people cannot promote.

Also as a refresher I could imagine a Gorgon: FE-Repo/Battle Animations/Monsters - Basic Types/[Gorgon-Variant] [F] Lamia Ver 2 by DATonDemand at main · Klokinator/FE-Repo · GitHub

Who knows, maybe Ellie is a Gorgon whose ability to refresh being a rare one allows her to get hired. Plus after the last game had Dezdana as one of the villains who is made peace with in the good ending, seeing another “half monster” be an ally straight from the start might show a positive development.

Wow. I wrote a lot again huh.

I hope this is my cool usual input.

I now really want to see this project huh.
Even though I am planning to “retire” from the internet next year…
Dammit.

Passion is a powerful force.

[TheEmeraldKing267]

You know i haven’t really thought about making one of the new playable units a half human half animal sort of thing. I’ll keep that in mind but i can’t guarantee it will be a thing actually. I was also thinking of making her a shapeshifter instead.

One more thing i like to note that i was thinking of making the genie Jinn very crucial to the plot. That will be revealed in a later date.

[TritraSerpifeu]

Yeah I just think that this would be a good way to add a new refresher.
Although since Anina exists who learned to refresh despite being a regular human in Lyn’s bizarre adventure it could also just be a human.
Although I do think to learn to refresh despite not being a Cherubian or a Pokémon/Laguz capable of that you would have to put a massive effort into learning that.

[TheEmeraldKing267]

Now i will bring you all the plot summary of what goes down in each chapter starting with Chapter 1.

Chapter 1: The Warmongering Marquess.
Peace was all well in Lycian following the downfall of Cornwell and The Black Fang. But one day our heroes were call in by the peaceful Marquess Madoka to discuss about Marquess McCullough sinister plot to finish what Daimler has started by jump starting another civil war. He has team up with a group of bandits called The Crocodile Gang and tried to pretend to be a group of Sacaens working with Aireth and propose an invasion in Santaruz territory. So it up to The Tactician, Aireth, Throne and Anthea to prevent McCullough from going in motion. They infiltrate Castle Ryerde and clash against both bandits and Ryerde soldiers. They were successful in stopping McCullough and he arrested alongside the Leader of The Crocodile Gang Lux.

Chapter 2: Entering the Beast Domain.
With the defeat of McCullough and his thugs their plan for war has been foiled. Now that Lux has been arrested, our heroes are now given another task by Madoka to round up the remaining Crocodile Gang bandits and bring them up to justice. They located the hideout where the last remaining bandits are being held at. After another battle against The Crocodile Gang, the gang had been captured and disbanded. With one threat neutralize another threat emerges from the shadows.

Chapter 3: A New Threat
Following the disbanding of The Crocodile Gang a new faction enter the picture, The Ice Viper Clan and their leader Princess Sera. Sera has announced their hostile takeover of all Lycian territories starting with Tuscana. Madoka send in Throne, Aireth and Anthea to Tuscana and stop their invasion. It may seem the battle will go in favor of The Ice Vipers, until a band of mercenaries enter the fight and prevailed. Theses mercenaries are called The Golden Vulture Company lead by Rufus Vin Stump. Rufus and his band are hired by Lord Betram a noble of House Pherae and are contracted to destroy The Ice Vipers and killed their leader Sera. Leading to our three heroes to team with these greedy mercenaries. Unknown to them however Betram have his own plans in mind.

[TritraSerpifeu]

By the way I have an idea for a new plotline, the “doubt of Madoka”
basically revolving around the idea that Madoka is critiqued for taking down Shin.

Former allies of Shin, especially Christof, the student of Theodore, Shin’s advisor, bring a new theory onto the lands: Madoka hates people that do not love her. Christof claims that the reason Shin “couldn’t be spared” was because Shin threatend her, and that is something she cannot accept. She is ready to spare the Black Fang because Zoe likes her, even though Zoe is a much worse person than Shin.
She couldn’t allow Shin to be the hero who took down Dreyfus and the Black Fang, she rather takes an inexperieced girl (Aireth) under her wing to make sure someone of her affinity is known as a hero. If Shin truly was a world saving hero, worse, obtaining the honor of becoming an emblem by the divine dragon herself, Madoka is too petty to let that happen.

Say this doesn’t have to be true, but I do think that playing this angle adds in to the “Sins from the past bite you in the ass” the Ice Viper have but makes it more personal. And it is an arc that tests Madoka. While I do not think that Thorne doubts her maybe it can even result in Aireth having doubts. Maybe even wondering if she truly was Thomas’s daughter or if she is simply a pawn chosen by Madoka who is given such a great life as to never question it.

And if in the end Madoka is truly revealed to be a good person, even through the doubt, it would settle Madoka being pure of heart and a proper empress of a new peaceful Elibe once and for all.

[TritraSerpifeu]

Also another thing I can imagine is that the Ice Vipers are partially motivated not just because the massacre has happened, but because the consequences are still felt. They are still suffering due to the consequences of that massacre, just defeating Daimler isn’t enough, the scars he left on the people and the land still remain.
Maybe it is the discussion what happens to Daimler’s assets after he is taken down that really sparks the conflict. While Aireth and Josiah think they deserve to go to the sacaen people the idea of the Lycian League growing smaller doesn’t sit well with the others, they rather have some relative pick up the Lycian assets instead of giving them away. And so maybe during the first part of the game that conflict is brewing before like becoming a war with maybe at first Aireth refusing to fight Sacaen folk, causing her to be an early game unit who won’t be avaiable for a bit.

Also one thing I can imagine is that some Black Fang characters become playable in the next game, due to that entire Black Fang sparing thing. Who knows, Dezdana could also become playable. Although I can imagine they are mostly acting in a seperate squad lead by Zoe.

Wow, I am really starting to get invested in this idea huh.

[TheEmeraldKing267]

A idea i have in mind was after our heroes was betrayed by the Golden Vultures, Betram and his mercenaries successfully drive off the knights of Pherae and hold Madoka captive in her own castle. There the Vultures hold her prisoners where she is tortured beaten and interrogated. Later on Betram confronts with Throne and his allies threatening them that if Sera is not dead soon he and the Golden Vultures will killed Madoka. Following Sera defeat Betram ends up backing out the deal and is going to have Madoka be publicly executed in front of her own people. So the last few chapters are a rescue mission to save Madoka.

I did thought about making some member of the Black Fang playable but i just didn’t have enough slots to include them in a 10 chapter game. My priority was introducing some new characters like Artemis’s son Perseus and the Genie of the Lamp Jinn. Plus i wanted promote Bastet from npc in Elysium Ablaze, to now a playable character here.

[TritraSerpifeu]

Yeah. Honestly I think this game is going to probably have like no tier 1 units. Instead tier 2 becomes the new tier 1 with an extra tier on top. Like if we want to make it a focused game I don’t we have time for a dawn brigade equivalent.

Hmm… It does also seem like we both go in slightly different directions. I suppose that’s ok.

I was thinking about maybe writing my take on Elysium Ablaze 2. That would allow me to truly play with the political focus as a story isn’t forced to have gameplay.
Like I could fully embrace making it a political drama about “how does the lycian league deal with the aftermath of Zen, Laus and Cornwell having their Marquess killed.” That escalates into the sacaen people demanding and not getting compensation for the massacre before it becomes a war of two nations.

And writing would be expressing a different hobby.

And then I guess we can see where the takes you and I have will lead us.

[WiiSportsRemote]

cool ideas, great concepts, would like to see this made a reality. I have too much stuff going on and i wouldnt want to add to the pile, but i’d like to help if its ever made reality.