Ingame achievements & Newgame+ rewards

Hi there. I’ve been working on an ingame notification window lately that displays arbitrary text after a flag is set.

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I’ve got things generally working after a lot of work, but before I release it on my coding thread, I’m looking for suggestions for achievements and rewards to use for testing and the fe8 self randomizer.

Achievement example:

Pacifist: Complete a chapter without killing anyone.

New game+ example:

After completing the first floor of Valni tower, you can claim a red gem from the preparations menu at any time, even on new game.

Achievements can optionally have a NG+ reward, or they can be entirely separate.

I’m not super interested in a lengthy discussion on whether NG+ rewards are a good idea or are balanced or not, I’m just looking for some general ideas. Thanks!

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O’neill the fake deal - kill O’neill in 1 hit
Nee game + for that achievement - able to talk to O’neill to recruit him

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I like the idea of the achievement titles being a little snarky to give them some personality.

Ideas for achievements:

  • Combat King I: Deal 30+ in one attack
  • Combat King II: Deal 50+ in one attack
  • Combat King III: Deal 100+ in one attack
  • Well, shit: Break a weapon
  • One punch man: Kill a unit in one attack
  • Nobless oblige: Die while rescuing a unit
  • Let’s break and enter!: Visit a house for the first time
  • Transcendant: Promote for the first time
  • Weapon mastery: Gain an S rank for the first time
  • Zero casualities: Beat a map without losing anyone
  • One man army: Beat a map with only one unit deployed
  • We hope you get survivor’s guilt : Beat a map with only one unit surviving
  • Sun Tzu would be proud: Beat a map without killing any units
  • Too poor to buy it?: Steal for the first time
  • We’re breaking all the rules: Summon for the first time
  • Tower conquerer: Clear the Tower of Valni
  • Ruins conquerer: Clear the Lagdou Ruins
  • Christopher Columbus junior: Unlock all map nodes
  • Are you expecting an apocalpse?: Put more than 50 items in the supply
  • Gilgamesh I: Have more than 10,000 in gold
  • Gilgamesh II: Have more than 50,000 in gold
  • Gilgamesh III: Have more than 100,000 in gold
  • Against all odds: Survive a battle with only 1 HP
  • Conversationalist I: Support 5 times
  • Conversationalist II: Support 15 times
  • Conversationalist III: Support 30 times
  • Oh we’re in deep shit now: Be the only surviving member of your entire party
  • Affliction: Inflict a status ailment on an enemy unit
  • I get knocked down, but I get up again!: Achieve a game over
  • Wait, staves are cool???: Use a non-healing staff
  • Well this is a game changer… : Gain a Master Seal
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Ideas:

Have the options to change what palette the achievement box will display as.

  • Change based on UI color Game option
  • Specific 1: Either of the 4 UI color palettes all the time
  • Specific 2: Either of the 3 MMB palettes

Also, have a 16x16 icon sprite display at the top left corner of the notification, using the Item palette.

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I second this last one

Can you get it to display the next few RNs without actually using them, or am I misinterpreting this?

Do they have to be generic? Or can they be Sacred Stones related?

Some achievements ideas:

  • Complete a chapter in one turn. (“Too long: didn’t play” or something?)
  • Complete the game in less than 200 turns or smt like that (“Speedrun”? Could be like Hollow Knight and divide into Speedrun I and II)
  • Defeat x with y (defeat Gheb with Amelia I find funny. Name could be something like David and Ghebliath)
  • Defeat Lyon in one round of combat / defeat Fomorttis in one turn (can you defeat Fomortiis in one round? Maybe leave that one as NG+ only) (“I thought you were stronger” if you want to have references in your achievement names)
  • Complete Phantom Ship without deploying mounted units (No horsing around!)
  • Level up a unit from level 1 all the way to 20/20 (“Favoritism”?)
  • Promote Ewan twice in the normal campaign without entering the Tower of Valni.
  • Get all three super trainees in the normal campaign without entering the Tower of Valni (Child Death Squad or something like that) (obviously NG+ only)

As for rewards, the emblem weapons could be a nice reward to get in NG+ for beating the Tower.

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Also. Are you gonna give the item rewards like the FE7 Bonus Disc rewards menu?

I KNOW someone ported it to FE8 before. But I can’t for the life of me find that post.

Legit some of those are funny achievements. Well shit, Let’s break and enter, Christopher Columbus junior and Wait, staves are cool??? are the funniest.

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Oooooh, okay then. that’s actually interesting to see on Fe8 :o
Kinda sounds like fun ngl but prefect to get NG+ stuff when completing it for the first time.

I suppose it could.

They can be, sure.

In my conceptualization of NG+, many rewards can be picked up without starting a new game. But you can get them much earlier than you would normally on subsequent playthroughs

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I wonder if one of the rewards for NG+ could be getting new units, or if it’s possible to start with all the units you got in the game. IIRC the Bound Destiny trilogy had something like this, although I haven’t checked yet to see if this was possible within FE Builder, or if it was most likely done in Buildfiles. I really have to do some coding if I want to do stuff like this lol.

Otherwise, this is a pretty neat idea.

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I like the idea of achievements that proc if something particularly unlucky/bad happens. It’ll end your run of the map, but it wasn’t a complete waste of time because you got a small bonus.

  • The Lottery: Get crit with a 1% chance. Gives Goddess Icon.

  • Aren’t you forgetting someone?: Clear Chapter 13 Eirika Mode in 4 turns or less. Gives Elysian Whip

  • No Honor: Have a lockpick stolen by an enemy thief. Gives Lockpick.

Erikilled - Get Eirika killed in the first map, within the first turn.

The Army Collector: Getting all units. (That counts Creature Campaign units)

Our Battle Will be Legendary!: Defeat the final boss using a Legendary Weapon!

WHAT RANDO: Getting a unit in its original class in a randomized run. (lol)

Devil Axe’d: Kill your own unit using the Devil Axe.

Double Marathon: Complete one playthrough for both Eirika and Ephraim’s paths.

Secret Treasure? Not so secret…: Find the secret treasure items in Scorched Sand

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Ooooh I love this!

Personally, I’ve been trying to think of a “Special Mode” where certain units get swapped around and the story slightly differs! It’s a bit like Hector Hard mode and I think that some aspects could work for new game+. Thing is though that most aspects of the Special Mode I have in mind for The Prophecy of Flames, are things like characters being shuffled a bit and switching classes. But maybe characters could get bonus stats, extra equipment and treasure chests could yield better loot? One thing I do consider for said Special Mode, are characters that can only be recruited in that mode. So New Game+ giving you other characters you can recruit could be interesting.

As for achievements:
Whilst FE8 doesn’t have Gaiden conditions, an achievement pop up for meeting Gaiden requirements could be neat as it takes away the mystery of having unlocked them or not at the end of chapter.

Also, I feel like niché things like pulling off a triangle attack or something could make for a neat achievement.

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Yes please. This would finally make my two braincells stop freaking out every time there’s a Gaiden. Plus, if you didn’t know about the Gaiden, like on a first playthrough or something, getting that pop-up mid-map is something really exciting to look forward to.

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Many gaiden requirements are turn based or could be lost mid chapter, so I don’t think this works well unfortunately. If it needs to be cleared within 15 turns, I could display that on the first turn, but that feels more like a goal window objective. Or say I displayed an achievement after Nino talks to Jaffar in battle before dawn, but then Ursula kills off one of them with bolting the next turn. It’d probably make more sense to display a message for failing the requirements most of the time, though that just feels bad to see.

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I think you can already do this purely based on New Game Plus Flag, which Vesly has already made

Here’s a few ideas! Honestly I love so many posts here already in this thread!

Lucky! - Get a 1% crit!
Unlucky! - Get hit by a 1% crit!
Overconfident! - Miss over 95%!
Taking one for the team! - Survived a hit that would one-shot a unit (Miracle skill)
Minimalist - Defeated an enemy on counter attack doing 1 or 2 damage.
Evasion specialist - Dodge 10 attacks in a row
Evasion specialist II - Dodge 25 attacks in a row
Evasion specialist III - Dodge 50 attacks in a row
Expert tactician - Clear all Gaiden chapters in a playthrough within 30 turns total
Master tactician - Clear all chapters in a playthrough within 100 turns
Arena user - Win 5 Arena battles
Arena challenger - Win 10 Arena battles
Arena expert - Win 50 Arena battles
Social army - Have 5 support conversations take place within a chapter
There is no war without sacrifice - Clear a playthrough with 10 casualties or more.

Edit:
Ironman - Clear the game without restarting a chapter
Ironman expert - Clear the game on without restarting a chapter or losing a character (all characters need to be recruited)
Ironman legend - Clear the game without restarting a chapter and using 7 or less characters total (recruited characters are freebies on their respective map)
Ironman God - Cleared the game without restarting a chapter on Hard, without using promotion items.

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