Hi Saint Rubenio,
Thank you so much for all the work you put into Dark Stone! Playing as the “bad guys” is an awesome concept, and the overhaul looks incredible.
I wanted to ask if you have any plans to release an optional version that includes the modern FE8 Skill System patch?
If not, would you be open to someone in the community creating a separate skill-patched compatibility add-on for it down the road?
Thanks again for the great hack!
First off, glad you enjoyed the thing!
Dark Stone was designed without skills in mind, and as such it would be quite awkward to insert it in a way that doesn’t feel tacked on. Plus, I have moved on from working on Dark Stone. That being said, if you want skills in the hack that much, nothing’s stopping you from installing the patch and tinkering around!
Perhaps it is a weird question but what is the meta for this hack?
I just completed another playthrough and most of my teams are either my favorites staples (hi Tiffani & Selena) or units that surprised me in a very good way (hi Tirado).
(That if I don’t switch things up to get the special map convos lol)
However, I was wondering if there is a clear tierlist regarding unit viability for DS? I wonder what is the meta for the hack 
Zabba >>> Lyon > Bone > all other playables > secret unit > Duessel > Glen > Demon King.
EDIT: Oh yeah, Ruben you should buff Zabba.
Hi sirs, I have a question pls, might contain spoiler I think i put question in here :
is there a document that tell us exactly who can support with who, and what they could get from support like liesalot can get Aiasinto flyer.etc.. The “Guide (spoilerific" document doesnt say liesalot can turn aias into pegasus knight, so ithink it is not fully and ask for more fully guides” . if i make mistaken then im sorry.
DS is a game where you can kind of use most of your ‘favorite’ units to some extent, the only unit I would theoretically say is ‘bad’ is probably Murray who basically suffers from being sent to the same route as Orson who is like easily a much better version of him.
If you want a ‘meta’ I would say you get good value out of rushing Bazba to promotion as an alternative silver axe wielder, or Saaga for early mage knight utility. At its core this is still somewhat similar to vanilla FE8 which is not exactly designed for you to have a berserker that early lol
Get the spider early so Breguet gets his great Lancereaving prf sword to better carry his enemy phase
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tirado good (gets even better with his support chain), aias good (takes a bit but pops off once you finish his support chain), bazba good, pick the dog or the skeleton first so you can hand their prfs off to better units, pick erkki the tarvos second so he can hit promotion level in his join map, short bows are cracked and they make pretty much any bow user with a pulse viable (you can buy them from the world map from the distant blade node), lyon is a very good investment target and becomes hack-defining when invested
I hate to break it to you chief but the spider is a bum and so is breguet
I believe there’s a promotion options section in the guide spreadsheet?
I agree with Lyon and Aias popping off if given investment. Lyon especially if you decide to focus on his staff rank. It’s a slow grind starting at E rank, but the payoff is bonkers. Convoy Access with S rank staves and high magic mean Lyon is the ultimate support. And then on top of all that, he gets summons and an absolutely busted infinite durability endgame PRF.
This almost became a post for the units you really like thread. Maybe I’ll actually do that some day, I really like Lyon in this hack. I almost feel like he was the first version of what would later become Apate from Hag in White, an extremely powerful and centralizing support character your entire gameplan revolved around.
If I remember right I’d personally say monica was the worst unit in this hack. Really good strength but thats it. I think her speed was so low she got doubled by everything and her low defense made it really easy for her to get killed. Plus locked to one range
Also if she dies while orson is fielded he goes berserk- not an issue if she doesnt die (or if hes not fielded)but annoying in an Ironman.
Other then that though yeah everyone’s pretty usable
Nah, she’s got the same 60% speed growth that she does in attack, along with a 110% hp growth. She’s somewhat squishy since she has no defense, but with even one secret book and her A support she averages a 20% crit rate on most enemies from my experience, which is enough to give her a solid niche imo
Aaah yeah forgot her speed growth. Apologies. Doesn’t she still get weighed down by her claws though cause I dont remember her having the highest con. (Might have just been her heavier claw which weighed her down)
Didn’t she also have an issue with hit rates due to her low skill? The secret book would help her early on but I remember her still having issues hitting late game.
I’m biased because I gave all my stat boosters to mine, so hopefully someone else can vouch lol. I feel like she never had problems doubling at any point in the game though, she would do extremely well on enemy phase if i put her on some avoid terrain next to Orson. She takes like 20 damage a hit because of her low defense and res, but she’ll naturally hit 60 hp long before endgame.
the weight of the claws are 8, 10, and 14, and she has 6 con without body ring, but she’s also got the 60% speed growth Once again I gave mine stat boosters, but I mustve gotten blessed because she capped skill with like 2 books, so maybe thats why I think so highly of her?