[FE8] N426's Frozen Throes Ver: 1614387600

0.1.2

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Frozen Throes is an abominable project spawned from the culmination of a lonely idea guy, patience, and time; including, but most assuredly not limited to: a heavy basis on the charm of Gaiden/Echoes the gameplay and depth of Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn, and the storytelling perplexity/bizarreness/styling’s based on the works of Yoko Taro.

Planned feature summary, I highly suggest you just look at this if you don’t want to spend the rest of your week reading everything in the spoiler tags below. Everything listed here is assuredly not implemented quite yet, but there is nothing here I’m not confident I can eventually and adequately deliver.

  • 40ish playable chapters planned, maybe?

  • 40-50ish playable characters I guess, some playable generics probably

  • Several possible endings

  • Easy/normal/hard modes with slightly different minor story/chapter changes

  • A continent where the countries haven’t been at war for hundreds of years

  • A story that largely revolves around a unit in the greater army, rather than the commander

  • Tight paced, mechanically complex, thoughtfully engaging, and feature rich chapter design

  • Blizzards, freezing rivers, avalanches, snow drifts, map palette changes, fog of war, third faction green units, split Thracia escape, and that’s all just in the 10x15 prologue. Many other new and familiar features as well

  • Themes include, but aren’t limited to: social and economic impact of conflict, morality, expectations, and change

  • Obligatory rom hack several arc structure

  • Obligatory rom hack time skip, expect it’s a flashback

  • Obligatory rom hack route split, but also a Tellius style split towards the end

  • Pre arc interactive explore-y style chapters akin to Gaiden

  • Pre chapter interactive Tellius/Fates style base

  • A plethora of new classes

  • Tier 0 – Tier 3 class units, a few tier 4 units

  • 3 branch promotions instead of 2, with reclassing therein to an extent

  • Skill per unit tier, with a half-assed Tellius style system as well

  • One or two mid/post game story relevant dungeons

  • Many new items, and familiar items of yore

  • Resource management/Forging system

  • Morale system (not fatigue)

  • Programmed randomness

  • Now commonplace QOL stuff

  • New music/graphics/UI/tilesets, yes, more new tilesets

  • I haven’t looked into it yet, but hopefully a usable world map

  • Lots of cheeky little references to things like engineering, science, history, philosophy, and metal music

  • A bunch more things that I’ve already forgotten

Screenshots:

5.5 Faerie spooky fella
explore gold7 Fort 2 words talk fish boat wars

Old Versions

0.1.1 Important update! There was a rogue magic seal in chapter 1 that wasn’t supposed to be there… He must have snuck his way in from Auri’s nightmare… I’ve remedied the issue in an updated patch up top and recommend playing again to get the full proper experience…
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0dltxg8iikehsqp/Frozen%20Throes%20Ver%201607144400%20Patch.ups?dl=0

Intro

As the days grow shorter and the nights become colder, you find yourself restless, searching for something new. As you sit there, lost and confused, the gentle wind brushes the snow off the trees. As it falls you notice a faint glistening. But it’s dark; you’re alone, your senses fading as the cold wind nips at your very soul. You crawl over by the faint light of the moon. What is it? You ponder. You brush away the last bit of frost and reveal what it is. You let out a puzzled, “huh?” And at the tip of your nearly frostbitten fingertips, there it is, that one project you hadn’t heard about before FEE3, were temporarily distracted by, and subsequently forgot to remember:

Ver: 1607212800 (0.1) includes the prologue, first explore-y chapter, and 4 more chapters, serving as the first half of act 1. The veritable Lyn mode, if you will. I do have quite a bit more complete than what I’m releasing today, but the lot of that has been omitted from this patch, because no spoilers.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/td8ha5ho9jt5n19/Frozen%20Throes%20Ver%201607212800%20Patch.ups?dl=0

Story

I’ll preface with this: I’m not a writer, I work with electric cars, so far from it, and never have been. In fact, the draft of this post is the longest thing I’ve written in years. I don’t expect the story to end up as epic and fantastic as I like to pretend it is in my head, or even make as much sense. And honestly, that isn’t even really a goal of mine. Rather it simply be something memorable, and enjoyable. You can expect a lot of influence from Yoko Taro in regards to the story development and style. And much like the draft of this post, I tend to write things as they come to mind, and leave them as such. The fun part there being the story is different every time I think about it.

Now on to the actual story bits. Frozen Throes takes place on a continent where the larger nations tolerate each other for mainly for the sake of economic cooperation, and the smaller nations, well don’t really have any other choice but to follow suit. You’ll learn much more of the back-story and relation among the nations as you progress. The world is assumed to be fairly far to the north, and largely in an adequately chilly and unruly climate.

The story is largely character based, and tells their tales relative to the world around them. You’re introduced to three of the main characters in the prologue, who part ways shortly thereafter. The bulk of the game follows the young mage, Auriela (Auri), as she travels in the party of Verdaine, a knight serving under the Dragoon Nikolai. Auri won’t really be calling any of the shots in her time travelling with Verdaine, as the latter is eventually set off on a mission given by an old lord in a relatively recently annexed region of one of the larger/wealthier kingdom, Veritas. In conjunction with the lord, Nikolai sets off on his own path to be revealed through the game. Paths will eventually realign as a common goal is sought. I really don’t know what else to exactly put in this section, without spoilering too much that you’ll eventually learn, I guess you’ll just have to play and find out.

Arcs

Much like Radiant Dawn, and just about every rom hack out there nowadays, FT will feature several arcs throughout the story consisting of several different parties. Also, like in Gaiden, they’ll alternate, up to a point about 2/3 of the way through the main story. There will also be a few opportunities to swap items/units between parties therein. Since time skips are also all the rage, one of my arcs will also take place at an alternative time to the main story. However, the time skip arc in question will take place in the form of a flashback of an amnesiac old man. This opens the opportunity for future events to occur (or not occur) based on the possible recollection from this sequence. There is more than enough material therein for a whole prequel, but with the time it’s taking me just to deliver the main story, that will all be condensed into the flashback portion.

Difficulty

Aside from the typical level/unit placement/reinforcements common to different difficulties, I’d like to include a few more changes. There will be minor changes to story and the relative passing of in game time based on difficulty. In one chapter for example, on normal mode in a particular FOW chapter, your party will arrive at a location as it begins to rain, which slowly puts out torches. On hard mode, you will arrive after the rain has picked up and already put out all the torches. On easy, you arrive before the rain starts. So the difference will be pretty minor, but there will essentially be a bit more content for the higher difficulties, up to and including more competent enemies (in the greater scheme of things), new mini bosses, item availability, tighter pacing, enemy AI, and perhaps a few more things…

Pre-Chapters

Throughout the game, there will be 2 types of generally non-combat, free-roaming, more typical rpg wander around and explore type of map

Once-ish per arc, usually at the beginning, there will be a larger, slightly more exposition heavy chapter, akin to the villages in Gaiden, but not quite Echoes. They’re meant to serve as a little break from the typical gameplay, and let you learn about the world/story. Within them, you’ll find plenty of dialogue with NPC and maybe some of your units, as well as opportunities to get items, experience, gold, hints/secrets, skills, new units, send off your merchants to transfer items, and even receive quests. You’ll generally be able to return to these locations and turn in quests, which should function just like they did in Echoes. There may also be some simple cheeky little puzzles within these chapters. I don’t plan to include any combat in these chapters, but things can always change…

The other type of pre-chapter chapter is meant to occur prior to every chapter, starting around chapter 6 on Auri’s route. These consist of a single 10x15 map, with only your “lord” unit playable, and function fairly similarly to the larger interactive cut scene chapters. The main difference being that these are meant to act just like the Tellius pre-chapter base segments, and will have most of the familiar features from those games, just in the form of a map, rather than nice menu. As you progress in the game, and more units join your party (playable or not), you will have access to many more things to do; more on that somewhere below. Come to think of it, it would make much more sense to say these segments will function just like My Castle from Fates, albeit in a new non-customizable scenic locale per chapter, but with many similar and several new options.

Fun fact! The explore-y chapter at the beginning was just the test bed for some of the things I wanted to try and do with the pre-chapter base thing, but got taken so far out of hand; it became its own thing.

Classes


There’s a lotta them, 80 in the main class tree if I can count correctly. All base units have 3 promotion options, with every tier 2 class only having 2 possible base classes. The main idea behind this is to have a great degree of freedom with how you choose to play units, but not quite as much as Three Houses. The silhouetted classes have not yet been shown in the currently playable chapters. Most really shouldn’t be too hard to guess, but there are certainly quite a few new additions, or even changes to old. I’ve also omitted a few of the classes that were only briefly seen in this release. This is the current tree after about a baker’s dozen worth of iterations, and at one point all of the classes were nicely intertwined, but then I got carried away… And if you don’t like all the choices provided, go play Three Houses and change everyone into a Wyvern Lord, ya bunch of heathens.

I said this was partially based on Gaiden, right? So there will be some tier 0 units. I don’t necessarily plan on having a bunch of tier 0 classes, but instead just a single class (or 2) capable of E-ranking multiple weapon types and promoting accordingly. So I guess they’ll be pretty akin to the commoner/noble from 3H.

There are a bunch of tier 2 classes to not only encourage replayability, but also ensure no two runs are identical. And if you’re not happy with the first tier 2 class you may promote into, there will be reclassing. Yes, the illusive modern FE feature in GBA. It won’t be quite as simple as using a second seal, but rather a more text based option at base, and limited to the 2 other classes the given unit may have promoted into otherwise. Any promotion bonus/nerf, and skill, will all get adjusted accordingly. I’d really like to incorporate the class growth modifiers to units to possibly incentivize exploration, but lest I recall the patch is buggy.

But why stop there, I said this was partially based on Tellius right? So how about tier 3 classes too? Yep, they’re not in the chart, but I do fully plan on having tier 3 classes. They won’t be quite as numerous as the tier 2 options, where similar classes will all promote into a single class. For example, most of the T2 physical cavalry classes will promote to the Destrier class. The interesting part there is the possibility of having multiple units of the same class, but with different weapon uses, as well as unique skills, based on their possible tier 1 and tier 2 classes.

So T0 through T3 equals 4 tiers worth of playable units. But wait, Gaiden had overlasses, so I’ll have a few of those too for some specific characters. So yes, 5 tiers of classes.

There will also be most of the vanilla monster classes, along with maybe a few more, and of course a couple NPC only classes.

*all of this is subject to change pending several things (and before you say it, I do have a janky late game solution to relieve OAM limits)

A closer look at the humble Merchant class:

Throughout the game, you’ll encounter several characters of the merchant class. These unique units have several uses. They’re mainly used a support class wielding potions that act like the dancer’s rings (because they are) albeit providing different buffs/nerfs than vanilla. The merchant class, as well as its promotions can use potions exclusively.

Merchants can also exclusively wield the walking stick lance to defend themselves, to give a use to the animation I made. They won’t be able to use any other lances (maybe), and will lose use upon promotion.

Another feature of the merchants, they will generally have their own little mission within their respective act, whether it simply is visit a village or something a bit more involved. I suggest seeing through what they’ve set out to accomplish…

Outside of the chapters, they will also function similarly to the traveling merchants found in Echoes, in that they will switch parties after the respective act they take part in, allowing you to transfer up to a whopping 5 items between parties. This will occur during the free-roam portion preceding every new act, so it won’t be any more easily missed than in Echoes.

Skills

Allow me to preface this section as such. Upon finding the skill section in my early FEBuilder forays, I will admit I made a spreadsheet allocating two skills each to some 90 classes in a much earlier iteration of my class layout.

Anyways, I’m not a huge fan of forcing skill emblem onto the player, especially in one-off rom hacks, so here’s the approach I’m using. What I’m particularly happy this method does, is gently ease the player into the new skills as they slowly start encountering more and more promoted enemies, rather than just be thrown into the game with a completely new arrangement of skills to try and comprehend on every single enemy.

T0 and T1 classes will all have a movement based skill- shove, swap, pivot, or reposition (anyone wanna make a draw back skill for me?). There shouldn’t be any extra combat skills on these classes.

T2 classes will gain a skill through leveling at some point, or maybe just on promotion, not got that far quite yet.

T3 classes will also gain another, probably pretty powerful skill akin to the Tellius mastery skills, being that these enemies will only be bosses/very late game/post game.

Other classes outside the main tree won’t exactly follow these rules, and have a few skills of their own accordingly, like lordly/unique classes, dancers, monsters, etc.

Certain classes will also have what I call their intrinsic skill, things like canto, the thief stuff, and a few others.

Playable units will have a personal skill. I initially wanted player units to have to “earn” their personal skill, by accomplishing some fairly simple task based on their dialogue or personal info page. I figured it would be either too easy to miss since it would probably be through a specific chapter event, too slow if I had a bunch of always conditional events, or just too laborious for me to accommodate unique requirements in any given chapter. So default personal skill it is.

Bosses/named NPCs will also have personal skills.

Some weapons and/or items may grant skills when equipped.

There will also be other ways to give/remove skills, similar to the implementation in the Tellius games. This will take place during the pre-chapter base chapters through a fairly text based event. I may or may not make it use a similar gauged based system just like Tellius, or just keep it limited to your own wants. Some in game events/progress will unlock new skills here you’ll have access to over time. There is one more way to earn skills here that you can create your own (kind of). More info on that somewhere below.

Resource Management/Forging

Another lucrative feature I’d like to add comes from a whole nother genre, but was partially implemented in Three Houses. Now I won’t have any crazy 4 tile monsters (although I think I know how to pull it off), but there will be several means of gathering various components, that can be crafted into something else. I’ve decided on giving items that you’ll need in order to collect the resources through some of the following actions: hunting in dense forest patches, fishing in bubbly water, mining at particular mountains, FE lore based quiz sorta thing at bookshelves, exploration at ruins/destroyed homes, praying at shrines, and maybe more. But that would just be too simple to always just give you a free item for moving a unit with an item to a particular space. So when interacting with these tiles, you’ll face a semi random event based on game progression that could just simply give you an item, or could spawn various enemy reinforcements, which could also give you a little surprise. Quite a few possibilities…

Resources gained through these events can be traded in, with gold, in some capacity to units you may encounter at either of the explory chapters for unique weapons, items, or even skill granting things. As an example, if you manage to fish up a pair of old boots, pay some gold to your local cobbler, and you’ll get the swiftsole movement stat booster. But hold on to those swiftsole, and come back later with a different special item and you may be able to turn them into a nifty new acrobat ability for a unit…

Originally, I planned to implement a system where a slightly random event will then occur from a list based on that particular unit’s weapon rank. But a check for that doesn’t exist, oh well.

Other things

Weather/Terrain:
Couple updates here. Weather will generally be aesthetic only; I may nerf flying during strong blizzards, maybe something else. I’d actually like to have other events based on the type of weather, but I don’t think there’s a “get weather” check. In terms of terrain, I’ll be adding in heal tiles, cover, wardwood, snow drifts, ledges, and maybe more. Also, vanilla peak tiles where the mountain takes up less than half of the tile will now be traversable plain tiles.

Morale:
There’s a nifty little event I found and wanted to use in FEBuilder that checks total turn count across all chapters. So I thought of baking this in as a sort of anti-turtle feature, which also lends itself to expressing the passing of in game time. The check will occur at the start of the chapters, and will compare your total turn count with what I consider to be a reasonable expectation for how many turns I think you should have spent up to that given point within the respective arc. Output will be just some brief message essentially relaying your gameplay pace expressed by one of your main units. This will have minor influences on chapter events, as well as possibly story events. Effects can also scale according to difficulty. The game is designed to be a fairly tight paced endeavor on its own, and this is just a tiny little addition to further spice things up a bit.

Randomness:
There are a few things in here taking advantage of some of the lesser used features of FE8, generally reserved for the tower/ruins. All of which are simply to provide an ever so slightly different experience every time a given chapter is played. It will never be anything to ruin your day or make things overtly difficult, but just to keep you on your toes, or slightly reconsider your strategy. Features include chests, reinforcements, and maybe something else.

Supports:
Supports will probably be kept pretty similar to vanilla, I may adjust the rates a touch, since I’m only planning on about 3 support units per character since I don’t want to type all the conversations. A few main characters may have up to 5 or so. I’ll boost the support point gain range to 3, since I think that makes a bit more sense than full map gains, and not as slow as the adjacent requirement.

I did try to think of an alternative for affinity’s based on things like occupation outside of combat, nation their allegiance is towards, or even just home country, but I couldn’t really figuring out what to do with that info and how it to adequately apply it to supports.

Some chapter inspiration:
These are some of my favorite/most memorable chapters (that I can remember at the moment) from the series that I figured I’d list as they may influence some of my design choices, among several other chapters and mechanics not quite as memorable as a whole. I generally prefer eclectic maps, with a lot going on.

3H Reunion at Dawn/Hunting by Daybreak (bonus points for maddening mode)
FE7 - Battle before Dawn, sans Jaffar’s rng
Radiant Dawn - Elincia’s Gambit
FE6 - Hero of the Western Isles
Awakening - The Midmire, mainly for the narrative around it
3H Cindered Shadows – Danger in the Dark

Credits

I’ll be adding to this list with each update based on what’s currently playable at that point, so it’s very likely I just haven’t listed your name yet.

Also, anything not created by yours truly should generally be from any of the various FEU repos, or from personal user F2U threads. A fair few mugs of mine are very heavy edits of some of those F2U mugs, but I’ll try to list who made those as well; and there are still a few just recolors, which I plan to make my own as well at some point. Please let me know if you see any asset that isn’t F2U by the creator, and I’ll remove it.

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Anyone that has their patches incorporated into FEBuilder

Map related stuff:
Flasuban for showing me how to do all that that tileset nonsense

Sprite stuff:
Dragoon map - Pikmin1211
Dragoon anim - Mercenary Lord, NYZGamer, Pikmin1211, Maiser6
Scout - Deranger
Merchant staff anim - JonoTheRed
Axe cav map - Siuloir
Axe cav anim - S, Skitty, Primefusion, Orihara_Saki, DerTheVaporeon, Kao, Aurora
King anim - Aruka, Kenpuhu
Legion map - Ryn
Stowaway anim - Eldrich Abomination
Privateer anim - Alusq
Swashbuckler anim - Monkeybard, Miguel-Rojo
Buccaneer map - Warpath
Helmsman map - Unknown
Chancellor map - Unknown

Mugs:
Spooky Fella - Lenh
Dream Spooky Fella - Klok
Fighter - peerless
Myrm - NickT
Theif guy - GabrielKnight
Missionary - Orihara_Saki
Backgrounds:
FGO stuff - Zoramine

Music:
@VGMusic
Digimon World – Night Time in File City - Cuddly Battleship Kattywampus
@Ultimate-Guitar:
Wintersun - Starchild - Author Unregistered
Dethklok - Thunderhorse - Pratton

FEE3 Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yg8Oen7R7s

Well if you’ve made it this far after reading everything, I think you deserve a complimentary “Good job”. Good job. If you didn’t read everything, well, that was probably the better move. I know there are some things that still aren’t quite right in this patch, but please let me know your feedback. I’m really hoping to deliver the sun, the moon, and the stars to you with this one. And I truly hope that you’ll at least moderately enjoy Frozen Throes.

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Working with electric cars is pretty cool tho too.

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just a heads up for event coding. In prologue 0x, the room events reset when leaving the room on hard mode. The dialogue thankfully doesn’t loop, but all the tile specific ones, particularly in the library and the springs, will kick up the same event and rewards

edit: the bed in the barracks also seems to trigger as the hot springs door if you use the escape option, however this breaks all the other events and green unit spawns

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excuse me, version number WHAT
is this iteration number 1,607,212,800? what the fuck how long has this been in development

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Just finished a run through the demo on hard, and I’ll try to run through some thoughts. I’ll start with some positives and end with a couple improvements and tweaks

First, big fan of the winter asthetic and mechanics; snow maps are a personal fave from a design standpoint, and taking advantage of the look and some of the gimmicks was a real treat. I look forward to seeing how you can play with the setting and the elements in future maps

Second, aside from the bug I already noted, I absolutely love the fort in 0x. Breaking up the usual FE rhythm with a stage where you can do some light puzzling, item finding, and chatting with npcs for lore and personal info? chef’s kiss. I’m especially impressed with how you managed to turn it into a multi map exploration, including functioning stairs. If this is how you intend to break up “acts” or introduce major characters and plot points, I for one applaud it

Third, the initial plot beats are all well introduced; the foreboding sense of something big coming, the undertones of betrayal and things being far more complicated then they appear, and hooks like the nature of the gate, the return of monsters… all these things give me a some hope for what direction the plot will develop from here. I’m also curious to see how splitting the part will effect the plot, will this be a case of two stories in tandem (a la gaiden) or a route split like FE8?

Overall, there was nothing outright negative, but I can see points where things can improve

As of this demo, there are a few descriptions for classes and items that are still vanilla fe8, nothing major or immersion breaking, its just funny that for example, the dragoon still is described as the cyclops

there were a handful of items that either had no description or function. I’d imagine thats a work in progress, and that it doesn’t include say, the stone shards or the boots, since you’ve detailed what you are planning on doing, but for examples the spirit dust still has the antidote description and doesn’t actually function, you can pick up a light seal that is still a dummy file, the leather shield does nothing that I can figure out and has no description, and the merchant potion could use a more succint name, like tincture or balm or something of that nature

To end on a positive note, I like how you have incentivized anti-turtling across all the maps thus far without relying on things like ambush spawns. it made maps like ch2 a real mission oriented timetable affair

All and all, a promising start, and I’m excited to see how the mechanics and plot develop from here

As an addedum, kudos to the spriter responsible for the mugs and the faerie class. Top quality stuff there

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Important update! There was a rogue magic seal in chapter 1 that wasn’t supposed to be there… He must have snuck his way in from Auri’s nightmare… I’ve remedied the issue in an updated patch up top and recommend playing again to get the full proper experience…

Using such a crazy version number in the title is just supposed to be some clever little marketing gimmick to make people click the thread. Gotcha. I’m a nerd, so that number is actually the time this thread was published in Unix Epoch time. Except I’m a dumb nerd, and it’s actually a bit off. It should be 1607144400.

I appreciate the quick feedback! I’m replacing the patch with a hot fix version addressing the couple bugs: the accidental stairs under the bed, the infinite tomes on the floor in the war room, the exp bookshelf event reoccurring/occurring outside the war room, and draining the entire hot spring. I’ve also added smooth transitions between the basement and its adjoining rooms to avoid the wrong map briefly showing up (which itself is a consequence of how tile changes/reverting changes work).

I’ve also updated most of the item/description related issues. The resource sorta items and potion names will eventually get a bit of a rework when I finally settle on how I want all of that to work.

I have a few more little wintery gimmicks in mind, and a particular couple that I’m really excited about implementing later. I wonder if I can bring back everyone’s favorite Revelations snow gimmick and make it worthwhile…

Oh boy. The way I have things planned out basically makes a later split you choose narratively dictate how this initial split was to have been interpreted. And that’s still before a third branch branches into three more to further confuse you! So to answer your question: yes.

I may not be able to do mugs from scratch, but I think I sure am adequate at splicing. And the Faerie class is actually my second custom animation, based off of my much more complicated 2B animation seen in the FEE3 demo video. Thanks again!

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Not to spoil anything early, but will “Mark” have a role to play in future builds of this hack? I’m curious as to how they will be implemented

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“Mark” will have a very important role. Their exposure thus far is incredibly limited, and main purpose for now is to keep people guessing what that brief scene was for at the beginning…

In other news, here’s a couple new character mugs I’ve just made that will be introduced in the next update. Hair for the guy on the left is an edit of Busk’s work, but everything else is spliced from vanilla.
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A brash pirate traveling across the land seeking a rich life in spite of his orphan brother’s. A peculiar young man living on the frigid streets of Veritas. A contemplative young woman fleeing her upbringing under the now fallen church of Alsatia. Bergman, a hearty mountain drinker, warrior, and father of Elena (this mug will replace what’s currently in game, which was never meant to be him). And then there’s Nancy, a lovely bar maiden; she may be old, but her beauty ain’t fading.

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Just played through the demo and had a grand old time! Am really excited to continue! Would love to echo how much I loved the 0x chapter. Such a cool way to move around and learn about the world. I would love to see this replace the menus where I ordinarily would choose units / the world map. I had a fucking blast moving aurelia around that space and would be so hyped to pick units, manage items, and hit the supply there. SO much better than a menu.

First of all, is the demo supposed to end when it did for me? After I completed Hostage to the Light, I jumped to chapter 47, and ended up on an unplayable map which made me quite sad (but maybe I actually got a sneak peek at Nikolai’s story?

Also one bug I think I found was that if you attempt to complete Hostage to the Light without defeating all of the mage zombie dudes, you end up in an infinite move cycle, and can’t actually end your turn or complete the level.

Overall I’m super hyped and excited for this! Am loving the story. It’s super fun :slight_smile: Thanks for making this!!!

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When we can acces supply ?

@yaboidon Sorry I’m so late to respond, but I’m glad you enjoyed it! I know I’m not competent enough to replace the preps menu and whatnot, but I would like to incorporate some of form of unit management through these explore-y chapters.

Yes, “Chapter 47” is the first part of Nikolai’s part of the story. Thanks for noting the bug, I’ll be sure to fix that. Glad again to hear you’re hyped for it!

@suryaainur Good catch, I was originally planning on adding the convoy after a transporter “joins” the group around chapter 6, but it’s become such a staple in modern FE that I’ll instead add access to it back in chapter 1.

In some more other news, here’s another batch of characters for the next update. Some are updates of my older splices, and a few new ones as well. A warrior, apothecary, stowaway, swashbuckler, lookout, and swordmaster.
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Next update you say? Is that still a thing? Yes, the next update I plan to release within the week, which will feature 3 more chapters following the other two units that went north in the prologue chapter. It also features another explorable chapter, this time in an old tavern.

Tavern

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Do you have a discord?

Not yet! I’ll make one to coincide with the next release. Or sooner/later depending on how much I procrastinate doing either of those…

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bug report: prologue, after defeating a privateer, 2 enemies on top right suddenly disappeared (also the 2nd boss’s name’s S is missing (but suddenly reappeared after player turn)

and rangers is tier 1 classes right? looking at their stats, but they give a lot of exp like tier 2 units

btw some unit description and class desc are wrong, (vanilla fe8 ones)
also, does killing the thieves have any consequences?

@Ribombee I’ve never seen the units completely disappear; but as the blizzard picks up, your range of vision decreases which I definitively have seen hide some of the units in the upper right. Depending on how you play, you may never see them in the chapter again.

Boss 2’s name is a character too long I think, they’ll have a real name eventually.

Sentries are tier 2, these are particularly weak so that your units stand a chance at engaging them if you don’t immediately run away.

Well aware of the many incorrect descriptions. I’ll fix those eventually when I have everything a bit more fleshed out.

Glad you brought up consequences of killing generic units, because killing some throughout the game will indeed have consequences. The thieves here however, are free game, if you can catch them. I’ll have the king guy mention something along those lines for clarity’s sake.

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Version 1614387600 is now available; the download is the same link in the first post.

0.1.2

This non-save-breaking patch features 3 new traditional chapters, following the two units that escaped north in the prologue, as well as another explorable chapter, this time in an old tavern. This also adds a couple new playable units, including the new vagabond and apothecary classes. Other new features included but not limited to: breakable barrels, ledges, chests/most closed doors in explorable chapters now open when you wait on/next to them, new movement arrow, personal info, heal tiles, and some other things you can stumble upon on your own.

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There have also been a few minor updates to the previous chapters.
The prologue chapter is now titled “Break the Ice”, and for a few good reasons. 1- Ice pun. 2- In a figurative sense, the prologue is your first introduction to what you can expect from a new game, perfect right? 3- In a literal sense, you can actually break a portion of the ice to aid you, if you meet the specific condition to do so. 4- The metal nerds of you may have realized all the chapter titles are based off of song names, and this is no exception being from one of my absolute favorite bands. Anyone know who? “Land of Snow and Sorrow” will be saved for later.

0x, made some minor efficiency changes and probably tweaked some text here and there.

Chapter 1, the reinforcements on the right were previously tied to a flag tripped when Auri reached a certain point on the map. If she’s not there when I had originally expected you to have her there by, the rest of the chapter flow gets really screwed up. They’re now simply turn based to avoid that problem.

Chapter 2-4, not much, just some minor balance fixes I think.

I also made a discord to provide you another forum to air your grievances. Link up top.

Assuming there aren’t any massive fixes needed here, the next patch will break saves, as I hope to do some heavy stat reworks to help differentiate classes further. Not quite modern stat/growth levels, but a bit of inflation. The gameplay for the next 4 chapters is largely complete otherwise, sans that stat stuff. I also plan to implement some of the other features I alluded to in my first post and hope to have that patch released before the NieR remaster comes out. Realistically though given my work ethic, that probably won’t happen.

I appreciate any feedback.

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Playing thru the first new chapter and noticed a few glitches. The ledge/wall by the red house seems to be a person? I swapped places with it and was able to walk thru it no problem. I also noticed if you look up the information on Buccaneer you get “The kingdoms highest authority. She is a popular ruller with great virtue”.

Also I think I triggered the Erika/ Seth support between Aurelia and Cavalier dude

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So the ledge is indeed a “person”, rather, an empty unit with no sprite. This is how units (minus cavalry) are able to traverse the ledge (at the expense of 2 movement) without being able to stop on it. Ideally, you shouldn’t be able to use any movement commands on it thanks to the boss-no-retreat/movement AI setting or whatever it’s called, but that doesn’t seem to work if the unit is green I guess.

Enemies won’t target it because it changes faction every phase, but they aren’t quite smart enough to use movement strats to break it.

The ledge also has the skill hex, since it’s the closest/simplest thing I could figure out how to do regarding the hit/avo changes. So yes, if you attack up the ledge, you will get the bonus too.

I also tried to suppress the mmb from showing up for it, which Vesly conveniently has a patch for, but I couldn’t get that to work.

If anyone has any suggestions/solutions to my rudimentary ledge situation, I’m all ears.

Either that buccaneer is really that esteemed, or I’m just lazy…
And supports won’t be coming for a while.

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Ok, cool that makes sense. I also noticed after u beat the boss he reappeared about the pub and tried to escape. Was that normal?

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Yep! So if you’re quick enough for a second round, or clever enough, you can get a dracoshield.

Plus it’s a little nod to hunting by daybreak; and like several other little gimmicks in these early chapters, it may serve as a little hint of things to eventually come gameplay wise, and in this particular instance story wise, albeit kinda minor.