Is Glen really that bad ?
To be fair, B tier is meant for those who are simply outmatched by their better ones. Knoll, while he is good, has the same class availabilty that Ewan has, while having a worse personal skill. Considering this is a Creature Campaign tier list and im considering even boots into account, meaning iām assuming everyone has capped stats
Ewan has the highest mobility of all the cast and can have the same skills as Knoll.
Orson doesnt really need luck since he is immune to devil reversal, the thing about him is that Falcoknights also have Galeforce and crit+20 when initiating, making his role more limited
Kyle/Forde as I said get hard carried by the praetor promotion, that which Franz doesnt have, having Resolve is really noticeable and should be noted
Innes is B tier simply because Hayden with +1 range is way better. It is better to have +1 maximum range than getting point blank, and getting access to 3 range with all the S rank bows. Also fell bow has 1-2 range so it really undermines Innesā performance
Gerik simply is tied to A tier due to his Gladiator stat caps, having a low spd cap and lack of offense besides his personal skill hinders his position, as a Hero Garcia surpasses him due to Colossusā existence
As for Amelia, you might be right about her spot, however it from my point of view against bosses like the Fire Dragon and other dragons you need effective weaponry to capitalize on Resourceful and to make Impale deal substantial damage. The thing is, you need dragonslaying weapons, and that means either using Maltet or a dragonspear (is this even on the game? I cannot remember) so it really hinders her for boss killing.
Ross suffers simply because Garcia and Dozla have better personal skills, simple as that.
Same can be said about Clerics, getting Mansel and Lāarachel means that unless you like them, they will get outmatched by the latter.
Glen right now has his personal skill bugged, meaning that he has an empty skill slot, He has +20 crit chance when initiating and access to Renewal and Triangle Adept, which is not bad at all since he gets control over weapon triangle.
However, he is simply outmatched by the pegasus trio, who get access to Galeforce on Falcoknight, also getting +20 crit when initiating and are more flexible due to triangle attack being available with canto.
So no, he is not that bad, itās simply that there are other choices which might be stronger than him
Yeah the reasoning makes sense, but it seems like you arenāt taking into account skill synergy. Yes Ewan has the same class availability as Knoll, but you donāt really want to spec him into a Summoner/Druid, since it wastes the mobility potential of Celerity by locking him out of mounted classes. So its a apples and oranges kinda thing, even though on paper they can have the same skillset.
Also yes Dragonspear is a thing in this hackā¦itās not the most common of weapons, but availability of them is decentā¦though iām not sure if the Slayer (i.e effective damage) multiplier is x2 or x3 in this hack.
Honestly i tend to go Warrior on Garcia, as the skill spread is more potent than the Heroās and synergizes well with Colossus.
I knowā¦though as a Trainee (i.e a heavy investment unit) Ross shouldnāt be outclassed by pre-promotes atleast once you max out the investment, otherwise whatās the point in investing in him?
Eh true again, allthough having a entire class of units geting outmatched and losing their niches is kinda of a feels bad, although thatās more of a vanilla problem than a problem with the hack itself.
I donāt think iāve ever managed to get my hands on a fell bow. Well shit on me.
The thing is, I considered boots meaning that in the end the only difference between mounted and infantry is the existence of Canto so my point about Celerity increasing the movement cap still remains
Humā¦since you can also give boots to Ewan, that means that as a mounted class heāll still have higher mobility than other Boots-boosted mounted class and heāll certainly have higher movement than Boots-boosted infantry classes. Now sure you can make the point that Celerity + Boots + Mount amounts of movement may reach redundancy levels, but the choice and the inclination to go for said choice is thereā¦thus creating a separation between him and Knoll as their personal skills favour them to go on different class paths.
I think you are making a missunderstading here, all classes on this game cap at 15 movement, regardless of mounted or not. Ewan is the only unit who can reach 17 movement in any class, the only difference being the number of boots you need to reach the cap
Humā¦ok, i actually forgot about thatā¦also are all stat booster still set at 8k gold? Could have sworn boots were more expensive compared to other stat boosters. I also thought the game limited you to a single pair of boots per unitā¦may have made a mistake there. Allthough Dark Knight grants Tome Range +1 which synergizes immensely well with Celerity, allowing Ewan to move further in, attack from farther away and then retreat to a safer distance with the extra remaining mov with Canto+.
A secret shop in ruins exist, will say no further.
Iām gonna say the point I wanted to make with Ewan vs Knoll, both can do the same thing, and the reason knoll was rated lower was simply because Ewan, who can get every class Knoll has access to, will end up being better because of the 2 movement bonus, thatās it. It wasnāt contest about which class is better for who, it was a rating about whoever does better and +2 is better than -2 damage. That tiny difference is what changes the tier. Other dark magic users like Selena, Lyon, Valter or Eirika are better due to more offensive skillset or better stat cap allocation so I couldnāt rate him higher than that
EH fair enoughā¦Knoll has better synergy between his skill spread, but Voice of Peace could do with a buff no question about itā¦i gotta a question thoughā¦if i give a Metis Tome to a Summoner will the extra 5% on growths also be granted to the Phantom growths?
Nope, Phantom growths are different from a Summonerās growths so it wonāt affect it
Well thatās a shame i guess.
BTW, since youāve seemingly went through a significant bit of the beta patches could you post screen shots of Hayden and Myrrh in their joining chapters, just to see the base stat differencesā¦sadly i havenāt been able to play all that much (or at all really) so iād like to see the differences.
I do not have screenshots of their stats in their joining chapters but on the beta version (which is Lite Sacred Trilogy ) Hayden didnāt change in his base stats from the latest patch of Sacred Trilogy. I only played the first beta release, havenāt touched any of the others
Humā¦fair enough, thanks anyway.
I had exams this week, so I couldnāt work on the hack. I should get stuff done this weekend, but I donāt want to set a date. Should be ready 
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Oh the anticipation is killing me. xD
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Hereās a question. Have you considered doing away with the arenas in favour of higher EXP gains across the board? The Sacred War formula was nice, where main maps had high EXP gains, while skirmish maps gave higher gold income. Would you consider doing something similar?
Edit: Yeah iām that bored. And chewing my way through the furniture while waiting for the update. xD
Hello, as youāve probably seen, Iāve recently started a fe8 pmu with this community using your hackrom as the base because it has the full skill patch and MANY great different classes/weapons, which would allow units to all feel different from one another; I originally had no intents to release the patch with the pmu changes, but, Iād like to ask you regardless: is it ok if I release an ups patch of the completed pmu (with all credits to you and to everyone who helped you in your hack)?
Turns out Myboy for android was incompatible with the rom, other emulators work fine. This hack is a triumph! Best version of FE8 available. I was wondering if there were plans to replace any of the other sprites which still stand out a little compared to the flashy new ones? In particular, the Warrior and Wyvern Lord would be awesome to see updated.
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