Effortposts Around Villains We Didn't Like (From Custom Campaigns)

[Rocksdan]

This post is inspired by Madzz’s thread Effortposts Arround Villians We Love (From Custom Campaigns as well as Parrhesia’s Effortposts Around Units We Like (From Custom Campaigns), so be sure to read those. Those talk about characters that left a positive impact on the player, so I’m going to try and explore the opposite, that being characters that left a negative impact on the player, or none at all.

In most hacks, the villains are obviously a very important part of the story, and they can be rather difficult to write well. When done right, they can add a ton to the hack’s story and really elevate it as one of the all-time best.

But not every villain is executed so flawlessly…

For every Zephiel or Lyon, there is a Garon or Validar. This thread is dedicated to these such duds. Whether they are annoying, have bizarre and nonsensical motives, add nothing to the story, receive more sympathy than their actions warrant, are desperately in need of more screentime, or just flat out boring, these are the bad guys you’re not going to remember fondly when you’re done with the hack, if you even remember them at all.

Remember to be true to your own opinion, everyone has different opinions after all. Just be sure to put effort into your posts, I want to hear your reasoning on why the villain you chose just didn’t appeal to you.

Just to be clear, this isn’t meant to be insulting at all. It should be more constructive criticism and what the creator could do better for future projects.

Have fun writing!

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[KingStaragna]

I dunno about this one, chief. By and large, the authors of these campaigns are literally in the room with us right now. While I think it’s all well and good to put negative critique in an “I just finished the game” writeup, I’m not sure that there’s much value added to the community by focusing on negative aspects of a hack outside of its home post.

[Rocksdan]

My apologies, I’m new and I’m not familiar with how things work.

[Yasako]

I thought this would be about villains we dislike - and not even in a love to hate way - but which are done well in that regard. But it was just “let’s talk about something that sucked about someone else’s work”? No, what?

[Rocksdan]

Look, this isn’t meant to demean anyone, okay? I guess I should’ve just explained that in the main post…

[SaintRubenio]

The bald man from Princess’ Lament

Ok so this one’s a doozy.

This random bald guy shows up without fanfare in chapter 11 of FE8 Sacred Stones rebalance, rewrite, overhaul, expansion extravaganza, The Princess’ Lament™

Where do I even start? Perchance.

For starters, look at that mess of a portrait! Talk about some style mismatch. He barely even fits on the box, his chin is cut off. Why is he leaning like that, does he have tortillalis or something? That eyewear does not fit the game’s ambience!

It’d be one thing if he had some riveting characterization or added something amazing to the map, but nah. He’s just there. He has average stats and a swordslayer. No dialogue other than his battle quotes. Just throw Seth at him, I dunno.

Why was this needed? How does this improve the Sacred Stones experience? Won’t somebody explain this to me?

But then the hack does something audacious - It brings him back later. Regardless of whether you defeat him on chapter 11 or not, in wholly new chapter 21x, he’s the main boss this time around. We finally find out more about his character.

He’s apparently an atheist. Okay.

Also he tries to whack his employer to take more money from the cave temple place that they’re looting, and then kills one of his own subordinates when they bring up the fact that maybe he’s a psychopath. Jolly chap.

Anyway, on this map he’s a dismounted wyvern lord, despite the fact that there are other mounted units on the map. Why exactly was the distinction needed? Does anyone have any ideas?

He has the decency to actually die this time, at least. It’s not like he comes back later, brought back to life as a dog, or anything stupid like that.

To summarize: Pratau Princess Lament™ is a really strange character with a weird portrait that has seemingly no reason to exist. If only the creator could give us a clue as to their thought process. Alas.

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Sandraudiga from The Hag in White

Her smug aura mocks me.

[Fringus]

his head really scares me but sometimes i wonder if i rubbed his bald-ass forehead id get a wish

[SaintRubenio]

[Sir_Lancelot]

Gosh I wonder how the creator of that hack will take this slander.

[Marik]

you could pivot to reversing to villians we did like

[marcelfe]

Are you forgetting something?

[SaintRubenio]

@Sir_Lancelot

Gosh I wonder how the creator of that hack will take this slander.

Not well, I hope. I am out for blood.

@marcelfe

Are you forgetting something?

The only thing I have ever forgotten is the ability to forget.

[marcelfe]

@SaintRubenio

The only thing I have ever forgotten is the ability to forget.

I’m talking about the ex-knight who killed the poor nimrod and betrayed the hunter

[SaintRubenio]

No I like that one

[zerorock1312]

Oh boys, lets bring some OG mods to the game
Sorry Blaze and Arch but this is one of the villain that I found so disappointed in The Last Promise
If I recalled right, his name should be Larah
Larah is a Dark Druid (or some kind like that) that has role as the master mind behind all of the stuff, like Nergal in The Blazing Blade
In the late of the story, Larah send one of his best subordinate to stop Seig and his friends and dude done the job by killing Seig, the main character. After that, Larah bring Seig’s death body to resurrect him as an controlled-able killing machine for himself, but turn out to be killed by Seig while our main character in his unstable and uncontrolled-able state. And that it, the final master mind is dead in a cutscene and we player never got a chance to fight him.
I mean, the character is wrote quite well. He is ambitious, powerful and evil. The bad thing that we never got a chance to fight him and revenge for the death of the main character or the pain that he caused to Seig and other characters, he just dead in a cutscene, while all of his subordinates got that chance.
Maybe if Arch and his friend somehow want to remake or remaster the old masterpiece, they could solve the problem like maybe a big fight with Larah, the villain badly injured but not death then rush to Seig, now resurrected, and seeking for help and got finished by Seig himself. That must be better than the result in the past. I mean come on, dude done many bad thing and die in a cutscene, too easy for him

[Parrhesia]

Weirdly I dreamed I wrote a joke answer in this thread. I don’t recall enough specifics to replicate it, but I’m pretty sure it was desperately unfunny anyway.

But the dream audience dream-laughed, so I guess it was good enough for its purpose.

[Norikins]

Was the “villain you didn’t like” a good guy? “Damn, [insert protagonist name here] really doesn’t work as a villain.”

[squidaccus]

TLP Spoilers

Lahar being killed by his own creation rather than ever getting a real chance to confront the main team in a climactic battle is perfectly fitting imo. He sought ultimate power through any method possible, and his own experiments brought about his end. His death comes from his own arrogance and ambition in bringing about a power he could never hope to match, and he’s killed unceremoniously as if he was nothing.

I actually think it works. I’m also nicer to TLP than most though.