[FE8] [Complete] The Dark Amulet v1.6 (08/08/2024)

Except she did, in fact she wrote up her own super diplomatic response to what Vorgus said. Her frustration instead comes from some other guy chiming in and saying “Man people are so fragile and nobody deserves special treatment anyway play this ‘mature hack’ that cracks constant sex jokes and has BlazingKnight show up to give content warnings because this game’s writing is so mature it can make people uncomfortable” as if that response isn’t both super disrespectful and comically tone deaf simultaneously.

Like, wow, they sure did come in and le epically own someone who had a dissenting opinion. They also made themselves look like a total ass and flaunted terrible taste in the process. Also you literally just apologized and now you’re backpedaling to say she’s projecting because she dared to get upset at the guy who recommended people play fucking Darius the Conqueror in a retort to her criticisms. Riveting.

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No, I apologised because I believe the way I said things was wrong. That is, I apologised for being that rude and lashing out at her and for projecting my own problems here (which is something she could stand to do). I still believe she has no moral authority to say what is sexist and what is not, specially considering that she has only played 4 chapters of the game and decided that the game, the dev and its players are all sexist. However, that doesn’t mean that I could have said things differently and without losing my temper, thus my apoligy.

He is right. You don’t deserve special treatment, or me, or her, or anyone here.

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are we judging a person’s moral compass based on what fe hack they like now

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Apparently so. Quite elitist of them.

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Literally show me where she said the dev and all the players are sexist.

Responding to someone’s criticism with this is basically the equivalent of “I want you to be very aware that I do not really care about your opinion.”, which in the most blatant of terms is just being disrespectful at best.

I don’t remember saying or implying this. I do remember saying it’s a really tone deaf response to hear someone have criticisms about implicit misogyny and sexism and go “Hey everybody you guys should play Darius which is basically full of the stuff they’re complaining about”. I’m not making a statement on your moral compass, I’m telling you to read the room.

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I understand. But the thing is that the implicit sexism and misogyny that several male characters have is something that is tackled and treated as a real problem later on, with story ramifications happening due to it.

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I was gonna answer you, but mod is here. I won’t have time to write my answer before they lock the therad for a while or tells us to stop. Another time then.

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Yeah and I get that, my comments are less directed towards Dark Amulet itself and moreso towards Jrpgaddict’s response. I probably should have made that a little more clear.

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Alright, all this back and forth is going nowhere. This arguement has been going on and off for a few days now. The author has responded to the original review, and this debate about sexism has gone beyond talking about the hack into users insulting each other.

Move on.

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y’all are too crazy, holding a fan made hack to higher standards than actual nintendo fe games. plz go touch grass and let the rest of us discuss the game this thread is actually for.

ANYWAY –
just finished this game and absolutely loved it. the writing and story was well executed, I particularly enjoyed how the flashbacks were built into chapters! harlan x julia was a fun spin on the overdone paladin and princess trope with him being a thief → assassin. It’s a smart audience play, when you subvert tropes that you know all of us (who are here in feu) are familiar with from the main games. Is there any place where we can see the ending cards for the pairings that we didn’t use?
my MVP: Leandra with Smite

very excited to play the sequel and appreciate all your hard work on this OP

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Your review might just have convince me to try this hack out especially to check out the love story between an Assassin and a Princess

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So I’ve beaten chapter 11 by now, and I decided to write down some thoughts, since I do intend to keep on playing and I’m worried I will forget what I wanted to say if I wait until I finish.

I’ve had fun with this hack, it’s certainly playable though that’s no surprise. I don’t consider myself to be fairly good at FE, I played on Normal difficulty, and the difficulty has been uh mostly manageable. Chapter 10 was something. (I know Normal isn’t the “intended” way to play, but I had to juggernaut those waves with Shorn, Rivkah and Griss a lot so that felt a bit off compared to the game philosophy). I did manage to somehow beat it on my first attempt though. The enemy number seems somewhat high, Edric is now sitting on level 20 on chapter 11 already and I kinda have to not use him now because he still hasn’t promoted (though I haven’t checked if I could maybe promote him with a hero crest? seems unlikely though). I really really like Rivkah, she hits hard, has consistent high crit with her skill, and is really durable, which is helpful fighting swarms of enemies with high enough HP that most units can’t one round them. (If she decides to leave me, don’t tell me. I’ll bear the brunt of my own failure)

I think some of the portraits need work. Edric, Harlan, Elyse, Rivkah, they look fine, but there are others that aren’t as much so. Shorn’s skin feels like it has way too high contrast compared to the skin of all other units, and Hilda and Catrine feel kind of choppy, not sure how to describe. Nadya also feels a little off, though maybe it’s just me. And I think Zeddard should maybe have a portrait that isn’t just a recolored Uther? Making portraits isn’t easy I suppose and it’s just visuals, but at least for me, it took a little from the surprise of fighting Zeddard for the first time when I see that it’s just Uther.

Story and dialogue wise, I had to recheck the first chapters with FEBuilder, because I remembered the dialogue being kind of rough. Seems it wasn’t actually that bad, I’m not sure where I thought that now, but there were some instances of [A] used a few words before the end of a sentence, creating unnatural interruptions in the middle of a character’s statement - which is a bit of a pet peeve for me. If you ever go back to the first 10 chapters, looking out for those might be worth, since those initial chapters are what make the impression for new players.

Story wise, it didn’t initially grab me. The setup seems very clearly FE9 inspired and so is the opening of the hack - you spend a handful of chapters being removed from the plot at large, taking on bandits and then Ormer, and learning some bits and pieces about the overarching plot as you go before you’re thrust into it. But it feels a lot slower than FE9 in that, y’know, each of the chapters are actual chapters, not glorified tutorials - so while you could reasonably play FE9 all the way to Greil being killed by the Black Knight in your first sitting, playing this hack all the way to the twist in Ch9 which essentially kickstarts the “real” plot (or you could argue the twist is in Ch7, but the same still applies I feel) is going to take you hours. So it felt like I was barely progressing towards the plot and spending busywork in a war that I already expected to be plot-twisted into a whole other conflict from the tropes and hints. Or, I don’t know, maybe this is just my personal experience. I don’t dedicate a lot of daily time to play my FE game/hack of choice, so I usually only beat one or two chapters at a time, thus it felt really long to see where the game was leading to.

But once the twist in Ch9 happened it was pretty good, not revolutionary when it comes to storytelling but it works - and Ch10 certainly strengthened the impact of that twist, both in how overwhelming it feels and in all the characters we previously knew reappearing to drive the point home. I liked it, it was pretty nice. As I said, I’m going to keep on playing and see where this leads to.

Also, one more thing to add. Having done a bit of hacking myself, I certainly know it’s really annoying to have to keep track of which characters are alive and which are not for every chapter’s story beats - but I’m not sure if I like the solution of “make every other character forbidden to be killed”. I feel it lessens the point of playing a game with permadeath when for some time the only characters in my party who were even allowed to be killed were… Hilda and Dwalt (I think. I haven’t gone back and checked, but I definitely remember almost everyone in my party being a story important character.)

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Hey Augenis - thank you so much for your feedback on the first 10 chapters!

The Dark Amulet was my first ever ROM hack - I think that shows in how rough it is around the edges. Totally appreciate some of the dialogue (especially early on) isn’t spaced out appropriately. Some sprites are very much vanilla (and many others are pulled straight from the repo, no adjustments or recoloring at all). There’s quite a bit of enemy spam (not as bad as some of the earlier versions, at least).

I’ve been thinking about going back to The Dark Amulet and fixing sprites, fixing some dialogue, even making some adjustments to the enemy placements in some of the chapters. Right now I’m pretty focused on working on it’s sequel, though.

I hope you enjoy everything that remains in the latter 60% of the game! Edric does get a promotion item pretty soon, so he’ll only be stuck at level 20 unpromoted for a little longer. :slight_smile:

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