FE Fates Discussion Topic

Eh, no. Just no.
They are fully within their right to remove it. We can protest it, give our thoughts, attempt a conversation.
They could leave it in, let us decide.

Either way, they’ve got first move, so it’s not in our hands at all. That’s a toxic mindset to be in.
Though ultimately, we have the final move, in whether we buy the game, or any future game of the series.
Though I imagine IS and Nintendo aren’t worried about it.

The choice here simply means that you choose to play the minigame or not. Of course IS has the right to choose to remove it or not, but it is best to leave it to customers, so that you can make your own decision. Now that the minigame has been developed, it is a waste just to leave it in the rom.

Now, in a more general conversation, this in particular has left me curious.

As much as I hate the petting, as degrading as I find it and as much as I would never let a kid play it, Fire Emblem, or at least Fates, has been rated T, or Teen, by the ESRB.
Letting your kid play that would be more a fault on the parent or guardian rather than Nintendo or the game, so from that front I can understand why people would be a bit surprised, however I do not sympathize with those who found that it made or break the game, which is from what I’ve read about 80-90% if not more of the people who oppose the decision.

However, that’s irrelevant to what I wanted this comment to be, so instead, avert your attention here.


Super Smash Brothers Wii U is rated E10+

How they felt that it was wrong for teens to pet young girls but that it’s okay for 10 year olds to play one of the absolute worst characters in regards to over-sexualization is beyond me.

(They’re both Nintendo, so take this in broad strokes. Different localizers may have different opinions but overall take them both as a “Nintendo Decision.”)

As a citizen in a country without any ranking policy, I never notice the rank. Who cares?

Seriously?

The point of rank or ratings is so that people can get a summation of the content within the game and make an educated decision as to whether it’s an appropriate title for themselves or for someone else.
Because of that very notion, it’s a laugh that an incredibly over-sexualized character is okay for 10 years but face-petting isn’t okay for Teens, when you bring both of those topics to their very basics, of course, I’m sure there’s semantics that people can bring up for either but I care not to do so now.

So, with that, I’m certain, dead certain, that a lot of people care. Why are you so closed-minded?

As an open-minded person I admit the importance of the ranking. However, I have no right to decide whether it can be founded or not. It is a “Government Decision.” I’m certain, dead certain, our government won’t give it a consideration.
Wisely I chose the JP version, which gave me a complete gaming experience. I cannot receipt an incomplete version. Maybe Nintendo can come up with other unique ideas for the My Room.

The problem here is that only parent seems to care about ratings, and the people just blame Nintendo and IS for the decision.

Maybe in the future they can make a FE without fanservice and make fanservice available via DLC, in that way if you want to play the game for its content, then you will play it, and if you want fanservice you pay for it. Of course, the game should cost less.
But that’s just a dream…

So they split If into 3 routes and sell them independently now. If IS removes the peting minigame and sell a dlc to unlock it, people will surely complain that they need to pay extra money. I remember that there are already enough fanservice content in the form of DLC, like Awakening’s beach and spring map. I believe Nintendo won’t mind releasing more DLCs to earn money as you said.

Imagine that you touch a girl/boy/uncle and she/he says, “1 dollar!”

Awakening was “ok” selling fanservice with DLC, it wasn’t really necessary and people who wanted that bought it. I think people started to complain with the quantity of DLC chapters.

And I’m not saying that IS should sell the petting minigame as DLC (And it seems it would be the case), but that they should do that in future entries, because we already know that mechanic was already on the game and it was removed.

I have bought all the DLCs of the awakening and IF(already released ones). TBH Awakening’s fanservice DLCs are not that bad. What I have not bought yet are the 4 amiibos to unlock the maps which are already in the rom. They are too expensive, I think.

1 character = 2000 yuan, the most expensive character? Different from the downloadable content I also need to pay the international postage.
Oh, I have not purchased the FE 0 cards either. The problem is that even if I buy them, I cannot play it. Even if I learn it, I cannot find friends to play it with me. Buy it, unlock my character, and lock it to the bookcase?

Amiibos are an entire separate lucrative business, I would blame the scalpers for the overpriced pieces of plastic.
–But I got a new Villager and Marth for $1 each. Naga bless eBay–
Personally I don’t like the decision of making locked content just to make people buy other accessories, but Nintendo became greedy lately.

Replacing the problem of “censorship” and not being appropriate and sensible in regards to content and ratings with DLC, another blight on the video gaming industry isn’t going to help anything.
I literally cannot see how fanservice being sold in DLC is a good idea.

Dating sim mechanics and the stupid animu bullshit I’m fine with, but there’s a market for that, there’s an absolute shit-tonne of content already in that market, a medieval strategy game doesn’t need to be twisted like that, even if the content is only delivered in “fan-service DLC”.

Don’t even get me started on amiibos…

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Fire Emblem has been around since the NES. 1990 was the release date of the very first title.
Since then, the game has released 12 unique entries. (Minus remakes.)

If you want to pet someone’s face but can’t do it in real life, fine, but not in Fire Emblem.
There are hundreds of games that will let you do that and even more, it’s not necessary at all, it doesn’t add anything and shouldn’t have been implemented.
If you want sexy anime girls you can drool over, google, thousands of pictures within seconds, even videos. No worries about censorship there.
If you want shallow characters who don’t have any depth beyond their respective anime tropes, there’s tonnes of media out there you can consume, not Fire Emblem.

There’s been sexually appealing characters in Fire Emblem, but it was never obnoxious. Characters were never ogled, they were never reduced to their body, like a camera who in Fates when introduced has the camera pan over their barely covered tits and arse. That’s not Fire Emblem.

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Some people don’t want to admit that they like fanservice, most because they’re afraid to be seen as perverts or weeaboos. And FE14 is “fulfilling” that “need” in public.
If people really want to play the game for the game itself, then they won’t complain about the removal of fanservice. I’m not in favor of removing content from a game, but if it is unnecessary content, then I don’t care.

The only thing I care about is, that we have to pay probably the same amount of money for a game with lesser content.

It’s a bit like some older pokemon editions were they completly removed the casinos One-armed bandits from it and you’ll still had to pay the same price for it (I think it was in the platin version). I’m not sure if it was for all lands in Europe, but they did it at least in the german version since gambling is only allowed to adults (18+) here, but Pokemon was rated as a Teens Game.
They did it better with Soul Silver and Heart Gold, where they put an entirely new minigame in it.

THAT is the dangerous mindset. It’s saying that they view you, and the rest of the consumerbase, as incapable of making decisions for themselves. It’s regressive and, to use your words, toxic. Once you let others make your choices for you, you’ve given up your right to complain about it.

Feel free to take one specific case and use it just like the rest of the idiots to attempt at a discussion on a subject as a whole.
This isn’t about censorship and every cunt that wants to use this as a fucking banner to do so is a joke. This is about the validation of removing a single feature in a game, of which, completely sensible as it’s inclusion in the first place is suspect at best.

If a studio feel that they want to remove something it’s their right. You then get your own right to a fucked opinion and the wholesome choice of if you’ll buy the stupid game or not, congratulations, that’s how the market works.
But if you truly believe my mindset, right here specifically, is that which is toxic and incapable of making decisions then consider me astounded as to your idiocy.

Man, it’s gonna be one hell of an anger wank when I go to bed tonight…

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I can’t believe this discussion is still going. The skinship feature is rapey at best. Inviting people back to your private quarters for facerubbing? Fucking weird. Considering the current media conversations going on about what is rape and what is not, it’s highly inappropriate and insensitive. This conversation is not happening in Japan, so of course the Japanese don’t get it. Corrin is more or less a commander that pulls rank and invites people back to his own room for shenanigans.

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Once you set a precedent for removal to cater to a single group,you open the door for other removals. If you say one thing is fine to remove because you find it creepy, yet you argue against the removal of another feature, your position is untenable. It doesn’t matter what it is, it’s part of the game, and removal makes it a lesser work.

And it’s not the same studio doing the western release. If it was, it’d be slightly more acceptable.

fire emblem was a mistake

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